Portis put on IR, done for '09

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SolidSnake84
12-09-2009, 11:08 AM
I'd agree with your statement 100% if the other backs would have came out and ran worse than Portis did (which would be hard to do)

But they didn't, because they practiced and had rhythym with the team, something Portis did not have this year at all. Practice makes you better, its a proven fact. In the NFL, even "Seasoned Pros" practice. Seriously...there are not many teams that would let you get by with refusing to practice. And did you seriously see the shape Portis was in this year? He looked paunchy in the media photos and even other people noticed how out of shape he was...I'm sure that didnt help him on the field any.

freddyg12
12-09-2009, 12:24 PM
all i know about Portis is that when he takes the field, its 150%. i really don't give a damn about practice. we are talking about practice, right? im not sure why you guys care so much about practice. if he goes out, and tweeks a knee, missing a game, then what? he has been with the skins long enough to know whats expected of him. for a seasoned pro, whats the big deal?

oh yeah, practice, CP, Allen Iverson & Plaxico. Those guys don't need practice!

the part I bolded says it all; Gibbs may have created this dysfunction by allowing CP to get away w/a lot. But Zorn & most any coach that wants to keep their job EXPECTS their players to practice! During practice, they perform such perfunctory tasks as game planning & conditioning.

Monkeydad
12-09-2009, 12:47 PM
Redskins Insider - Portis' future and the salary cap (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-reid/portis-future-and-the-salary-c.html?wprss=redskinsinsider)


Portis' future and the salary cap

Many in the league believe 2010 will be an uncapped year, but the current system and its rules still are in place. If the Redskins released Clinton Portis before June 1 in 2010, they could face a cap hit of as much as $14.8 million, according to league sources familiar with Portis's contract and the Redskins' cap situation.

Portis last renegotiated his contract in March 2008, receiving a signing bonus of almost $9.4 million. By the end of this season, Portis, under the terms of the renegotiated deal, will have been paid more than $2.35 million in salaries and bonuses in addition to his signing bonus. Most of Portis's 2010 base salary of almost $7.2 million is guaranteed, and he is also due roster and workout bonuses totaling about $507,000.

The Redskins also have "offset" language on the guaranteed portion of his contract. If Washington released Portis and he joined another team next season, the Redskins would receive a credit against his guarantee for any additional salary.

CrazyCanuck
12-09-2009, 01:42 PM
If the Redskins released Clinton Portis before June 1 in 2010, they could face a cap hit of as much as $14.8 million, according to league sources familiar with Portis's contract and the Redskins' cap situation.

This seems high to me. I have his 2009 release fee just under $14M but only $8.5M for 2010. His contract's been reworked and restructured a few times so my numbers could be off but still seems like a big discrepancy. I expect his 2010 release fee to be around $8-$10M.

BigHairedAristocrat
12-09-2009, 02:23 PM
I'm not expert, but perhaps the key is the June 1, 2010 date and if Portis is cut after that, the cap hit is only 8.5MM?

Trample the Elderly
12-09-2009, 02:27 PM
If we're lucky, Clinton "I don't make no mistakes" Portis has played his last football for the Redskins.

jsarno
12-09-2009, 02:28 PM
Come on - It sounded like his vision was blurry and he went to see a specialist. I trust him and I think he plays his heart out. I would NOT question his heart. Seeing plays on TV is different than playing the game.

Second, I still think we should not have ever traded for him in the first place. Would have loved to keep Bailey, a Hall-of-Famer, if he would have stayed. Colossal mistake, and we also gave up a 2nd (?) round pick. Portis was great, but (1) Shut-down corners are much harder to find. (2) RB's careers are much shorter (as we're seeing now).

I hope Portis is okay and wish him the best. But time for a new *young* RB in the draft (after offensive line).

First, while I do understand what supposedly occured with the doctors, no, I do not believe him. I think the skins made it clear they don't want him back, and he is now disheartened to the team and what's the point of coming back when the team isn't going anywhere? He gets paid regardless. Again, who do you know misses 8 weeks of the season with a concussion? It just doesn't happen. Some day we will be aware of what is REALLY happening cause we all know Portis is a big mouth.
Second, your second point is true, and a lot of us felt that way when it happened, but man that was a LOOOONG time ago and Portis did well for us for a while, he's just done now.

SolidSnake84
12-09-2009, 02:29 PM
If we're lucky, Clinton "I don't make no mistakes" Portis has played his last football for the Redskins.

+ 5

Agreed. Let's hope Clinton "i'm delusional about my own abilities" Portis will go on to bless some other franchise with his presence. But know this...whoever picks him up, the running game just got that much easier to defend against!

diehardskin2982
12-09-2009, 02:33 PM
Our RB situation will be completely different next year. I see a Ganther, Portis, Ryan Mathews or Toby Gerhart combination.

Trample the Elderly
12-09-2009, 02:37 PM
Our RB situation will be completely different next year. I see a Ganther, Portis, Ryan Mathews or Toby Gerhart combination.

I'd honestly rather have Rock than Portis. Rock has more heart and less wear and tear. Gerhart would be the change of pace guy we've been looking for. I'd be cool with Ganther. It'd be nice to have situational backs instead of an all purpose back.

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