mlmpetert
12-03-2009, 10:36 AM
I don’t really like all the show boating idiots like Chad Johnson or TO perform on a regular basis, but throwing the ball into the stands seems fine to me, almost a NFL tradition. Whats the harm in that, how is that excessive celebration? I didn’t see the play, but unless he pegged it at some Seahawks fan or offered it to the Ref then pulled a “yoink” and tossed it into the stands whats the problem?
His team is losing he throws the balls into the stands to the few fans that actually showed up in St. Louis, and to the even fewer fans that were still in the stadium watching after the game was all but over.
Steven Jackson fined $5,000 for throwing ball in stands | ProFootballTalk.com (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/03/steven-jackson-fined-5000-for-throwing-ball-in-stands/)
SolidSnake84
12-03-2009, 10:41 AM
No Fun League....go figure.
They are getting ridiculous....what did that football cost? maybe 10 bucks??
ArtMonkDrillz
12-03-2009, 10:52 AM
No Fun League....go figure.
They are getting ridiculous....what did that football cost? maybe 10 bucks??I think they're more like $80 a pop, but I agree that a fine is stupid is this case.
mlmdub130
12-03-2009, 10:59 AM
jackson throws a ball into the stands and gets fined
+
parker spins and slams campbell to the ground and isn't fined
=
goodell is a douche
firstdown
12-03-2009, 11:16 AM
I all ways thought it was a standard fien of $500 for tossing a ball or handing a ball to a fan. I guess throwing a ball in celebration is looked at differently and I also don't know why it could not be a penalty for celebrating with an object.
cpayne5
12-03-2009, 11:30 AM
I all ways thought it was a standard fien of $500 for tossing a ball or handing a ball to a fan. I guess throwing a ball in celebration is looked at differently and I also don't know why it could not be a penalty for celebrating with an object.
Yes, throwing the ball into the stands has had a standard fine for a long time. I think it used to be $750, but was upped to $2500 a few years ago. Maybe it's been upped again to $5k?
As for the price of the football, MSRP of an official Wilson game ball is $110. Amazon sells them for $80, and I'm sure the NFL gets a good deal on the 36 game balls they use for each game.
AsylumGuido
12-03-2009, 12:02 PM
According to the 2008 NFL Fine Schedule, the fine for throwing a ball into the stands is a mandatory $5,000 for the first offense and $10,000 for the second offense. I'm not sure what changes, if any, were made for the 2009 season. Here are some of the other listed fines ... pretty interesting list.
Offense Against Game Official
Physical Contact with Official
First Offense: $25,000
Second Offense: $50,000
Verbal or other Non-Physical Offense Against Official
First Offense: $20,000
Second Offense: $40,000
Flagrant Personal Foul
Suspension or fine; severity to be determined by degree of violation; the fine may be $10,000 or higher for first offense.
Fighting
Fighting
First Offense: $10,000
Second Offense: $25,000
Unnecessarily Entering Fight Area (active involvement)
First Offense: $5,000
Second Offense: $10,000
Unnecessarily Entering Fight Area (no active involvement)
First Offense: $2,500
Second Offense: $7,500
Sportsmanship
Excessive Profanity; other Unsportsmanlike Conduct (e.g., toward opponent(s), game personnel, fans, etc.)
First Offense: $10,000
Second Offense: $20,000
Taunting
First Offense: $7,500
Second Offense: $10,000
Football Into Stands
First Offense: $5,000
Second Offense: $10,000
Uniform
Foreign Substances on Body/Uniform
First Offense: $10,000
Second Offense: $15,000
Personal Messages
First Offense: $5,000
Second Offense: $10,000
Chin Straps
First Offense: $7,500
Second Offense: $10,000
(Additional fines may be imposed on team management and coaching staffs for condoning, permitting, etc., violations in this area)
Other Uniform/Equipment Violation
First Offense: $5,000
Second Offense: $10,000
On Field Logo Violation
Preseason and Regular Season
First Offense: $10,000
Second Offense: $20,000
Playoffs (Including Pro Bowl)
First Offense: $50,000
Second Offense: $75,000
Super Bowl
$100,000
Gang Signing
Considered conduct detrimental to the League; suspension or fine; severity to be determined in accordance with provisions of the Personal Conduct Policy.
CRedskinsRule
12-03-2009, 12:41 PM
Pretty interesting stuff thanks!
Still 5000 seems petty and harsh.
Monkeydad
12-03-2009, 12:51 PM
Geesh, $10K the next time he does it.
Anything over the cost of the ball is ridiculous.
mlmpetert
12-03-2009, 01:06 PM
Geesh, $10K the next time he does it.
Anything over the cost of the ball is ridiculous.
Yeah, it should be the cost of the ball plus one ball you sign and donate to charity. I view giving the ball away as a positive thing.
I wonder what happened when Cory Dillon threw his pads and helmet into the stands after his last Cincinnati game?