Bradford still leads, Locker Clausen gain

I agree with Pike being a great 2nd or 3rd round pick, but if we do get a QB we need to give them time to learn the system and not just throw him in there. The reason i like Pike is that he is playing great with team that is not a power house. teams like Texas, USC, Florida, Oklahoma and Ohio st. always have the a hell of a lot of talent, so its hard to tell if its the QB or just the talent around him. not to say Gillard and Wood are not great recievers for Pike, but QB's at non-cream-of-the-crop schools have to do better with a little less supporting cast in there college years. All this said we still need Campbell back next tio have some sort of consistancy in the broken system we have now.

and Charles Brown should be our first pick.

in no way shape or form am i say throw pike in there, the kid is fragile he needs a solid oline, but he has a great feild of vision, and he can throw on the move. and is very accurate down feild. and he does have a supporting cast they threw collaras in there and he did great as well.

that said i really would love to pick him up in the late second to thrid round assuming we make some moves

as far as campbell i hope he comes back too, kind of doubt it though, but i am done with wco we need a new system it does not fit our team personel at all

in no way shape or form am i say throw pike in there, the kid is fragile he needs a solid oline, but he has a great feild of vision, and he can throw on the move. and is very accurate down feild. and he does have a supporting cast they threw collaras in there and he did great as well.

that said i really would love to pick him up in the late second to thrid round assuming we make some moves

as far as campbell i hope he comes back too, kind of doubt it though, but i am done with wco we need a new system it does not fit our team personel at all

i like pike, but im also wary of spread qbs coming to the nfl. cincinatti runs a spread offense, so we will see how long it takes him to make proper reads in a pro-style offense. thats one reason i really like clausen. he can make all the throws, and comes from a pro-style offense, his learning curve will be less than any of the others.

Im not going by what kind of offense a QB played in at college, you can either make the throws or not,system doesnt matter IMO.
Alex Smith was a "spread" QB and id have to say he looks better than Quinn from that ND "pro" style offense.

i would rather have a learning curve of a year or so, regardless of who we pick up at qb we don't need them to get in there right away and get ramsey-ed, we need to get our online solid before we insert any new qb

If we want a QB in the first round, I say Clausen

2nd round-Zac Robinson

3rd or beyond-John Skelton (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/high_school/2009/08/24/2009-08-24_unheralded_fordham_qb_john_skelton.html) or Dominic Randolph (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/dan_shaughnessy/11/30/randolph/index.html?cnn=yes)

No qb in the first round...don't you guys watch the games, JC isn't winning any games but the O-line is actively losing games. You have to fix the weakest link first and that is the o-line, pick up some tackles and shore up the guards.

I agree with you to an extent. But Aaron Rogers is the most sacked QB in the NFL and he's still putting up stellar numbers and winning games. Campbell can't perform under pressure, he needs to go.

I agree with you to an extent. But Aaron Rogers is the most sacked QB in the NFL and he's still putting up stellar numbers and winning games. Campbell can't perform under pressure, he needs to go.

like others have said rogers gets sacked so much because he holds on to the ball wayyyyyyy to long not because his line is falling apart. i'd say more than 50% of the times he is sacked it is his own fault

Im not going by what kind of offense a QB played in at college, you can either make the throws or not,system doesnt matter IMO.
Alex Smith was a "spread" QB and id have to say he looks better than Quinn from that ND "pro" style offense.

System does matter. Spread QB's are in shotgun and rarely under center, but experience dropping back from being under center is necessary in the NFL. Also, spread qb's typically are not required to read defenses at the level that drop-back qb's are.

I think Clausen has more pro-style experience and thus would be more likely to make the transition to the NFL smoothly.

System does matter. Spread QB's are in shotgun and rarely under center, but experience dropping back from being under center is necessary in the NFL. Also, spread qb's typically are not required to read defenses at the level that drop-back qb's are.

I think Clausen has more pro-style experience and thus would be more likely to make the transition to the NFL smoothly.

exactly my point. the learning curve is going to be less for a pro-style guy, and if people really want to win sooner rather than later, a pro-style guy is the way to go all the way imo.

If we want a QB in the first round, I say Clausen

2nd round-Zac Robinson

3rd or beyond-John Skelton (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/high_school/2009/08/24/2009-08-24_unheralded_fordham_qb_john_skelton.html) or Dominic Randolph (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/dan_shaughnessy/11/30/randolph/index.html?cnn=yes)

When do you think clausen will go in the first round? Do you think he will go before mccoy and bradford?