Why Are We So Divided On Jason Campbell?

Maybe the mistake was switching Campbell to a West Coast (and yes I know he ran it one year in college) when he had just spent three NFL years learning the Gibbs/Saunders' system

Isnt that what all but the most die-hard Campbell apologists have been saying for the past two years? Campbells a square peg and the WCO is a round hole. It was utter foolishness of Cerrato to try and fit them together.

great post 53

Thanks RW. I think having a consistently good, talented o-line would make things a lot clearer.

He's been gaining back good ground with me.. but kind of reminds me of Cutler in that he'll make a great play and then flub up for awhile. Skipping passes off of the ground, overthrowing, throwing to the wrong side. I'm not in the get him out of here camp, but either he doesn't 1) quite have it or 2) zorn isn't coaching him up the way he needs to

I'd say he's still hurt too

People are so divided on Campbell because narrow-minded/Snyder-like fans believe that he's the only reason we're not doing well, and also believe that those of us who don't think like this are Campbell apologists.
Somebody not liking Campbell does NOT mean that they think that he is the only reason.

Jason may have played his best game vs dallas. Very good job Jason! I have not been on Campbells side much but I loved the way he played. If he was like this most weeks we wouldn't be taking about him at all!

Maybe the mistake was switching Campbell to a West Coast (and yes I know he ran it one year in college) when he had just spent three NFL years learning the Gibbs/Saunders' system

Thats a whole other ball of wax. No one is talking about this fact that we switched our offensive philosophies to one that maybe didn't match our personel very well.

Thats a whole other ball of wax. No one is talking about this fact that we switched our offensive philosophies to one that maybe didn't match our personel very well.We also drafted a lot of that personnel after the switch. Four players who contributed yesterday were drafted in the 2008 Draft, and Stephon Heyer was a holdover project who they determined (probably correctly) to be a west coast tackle. Considering that Cooley, Campbell, and Randle El all had really good years in the WCO, we're estentially just talking about Moss and Portis, and then some parts of the OL (which again, haven't been addressed in any meaningful way).

We got that good half-season from Portis by basically putting the WCO principals on the back-burner while we "ran to win." We were winning because we were running well, and Campbell was playing well because we were running well. But that running came at the expense of necessary development in the WCO. The hope was that a healthy OL this year could lead to a significant developement in the offense, but that was more hope than reality.

I don't want to get too ahead here, espcially not in this thread, but a mutual scenerio might be swapping Alex Smith for Jason Campbell. Both could probably use a change of scenery, their both around the same age/same class, and arguably still have some upside.

That or ship him to Oakland for a conditional pick and maybe a solid depth player.

I don't want to get too ahead here, espcially not in this thread, but a mutual scenerio might be swapping Alex Smith for Jason Campbell. Both could probably use a change of scenery, their both around the same age/same class, and arguably still have some upside.

That or ship him to Oakland for a conditional pick and maybe a solid depth player.I keep hearing: Seattle, St. Louis, and Arizona. San Francisco likes Nate Davis a lot, I think, and could be a possible Tebow landing spot. With Arizona, I think Whisenhunt specifically is high on him, after getting beat by him in two out of the last three seasons.

Seattle is probably going to cut Hasselbeck for financial reasons, and needs to decide whether they want to go with a Campbell-type 29 year old QB to lead the franchise in the short term, or start from scratch. You have the exact same deal in place for Bulger in St. Louis. They want to be in position to pick up a QB in the draft, but could see a trade of a third rounder for Campbell or Leinart as a better solution as to holding the status quo any longer.

I also keep hearing that Minnesota still wants to get Brady Quinn to replace Brett Favre eventually...but I'm skeptical because they could have just drafted him in 2007.

Oakland will probably draft Bradford with like the 5th overall pick. Or something equally incomprehensible.

I keep hearing: Seattle, St. Louis, and Arizona. San Francisco likes Nate Davis a lot, I think, and could be a possible Tebow landing spot. With Arizona, I think Whisenhunt specifically is high on him, after getting beat by him in two out of the last three seasons.

Seattle is probably going to cut Hasselbeck for financial reasons, and needs to decide whether they want to go with a Campbell-type 29 year old QB to lead the franchise in the short term, or start from scratch. You have the exact same deal in place for Bulger in St. Louis. They want to be in position to pick up a QB in the draft, but could see a trade of a third rounder for Campbell or Leinart as a better solution as to holding the status quo any longer.

I also keep hearing that Minnesota still wants to get Brady Quinn to replace Brett Favre eventually...but I'm skeptical because they could have just drafted him in 2007.

Oakland will probably draft Bradford with like the 5th overall pick. Or something equally incomprehensible.

Those are good possibilities. San Francisco, I like, because they are similiar to Washington in a lot ways and I think a coach like Mike Singletary would be great for him. Seattle, eh? Similiar system as the one he's playing in now and they have a lot issues, so I don't see how he excels there.

As far as Zona goes, what do you with Matt Leinart, trade him? I think if someone could get through to Al Davis, you trade for Campbell and keep your first round pick.