Brian Orakpo = Beast

We also essentially got two positions out of Orakpo-LB and DE. It's not like we could flip Oher back and forth between left and right tackle depending on the down

That's not to say I wouldn't have been happy with Oher.

But really, it shouldn't be about Oher vs. Orakpo. We should recall that we had no 2nd round pick to do anything with. And we took two linebackers in the middle rounds. Those were some missed opportunities to get offensive linemen

B.A. Baracus?

http://blogs.sundaymercury.net/anorak-city/ATEAM%20BA.jpg

I guess so

to me the orakpo pick was a no brainer. the only real other decision was oher. but im sure i was just like the rest of you nervously waiting through picks 8-12 hoping orakpo wasnt going to be drafted before us. if orakpo was drafted then i had alil consolation in the fact that oher wouldnt be a bad second option.

given our need for passing rushing, orakpo was the most obvious selection.

my biggest worry was that vinny was going to trade down putting him out of the top part of the draft where talent is alot less evident.

our FO does pretty well drafting in the top half of the first round, give them a bunch of 2nd rounders or late 1st rounders where it takes quality scouting and analysis to make pay off picks and we run into trouble.

also AH's contribution can not be overlooked. everyone said AH's impact doesnt show up on stats but the increase in the stats for guys around him. well, carter has what 8 sacks and orakpo 7? thats pretty evident.

to me the orakpo pick was a no brainer. the only real other decision was oher. but im sure i was just like the rest of you nervously waiting through picks 8-12 hoping orakpo wasnt going to be drafted before us. if orakpo was drafted then i had alil consolation in the fact that oher wouldnt be a bad second option.

given our need for passing rushing, orakpo was the most obvious selection.

my biggest worry was that vinny was going to trade down putting him out of the top part of the draft where talent is alot less evident.

our FO does pretty well drafting in the top half of the first round, give them a bunch of 2nd rounders or late 1st rounders where it takes quality scouting and analysis to make pay off picks and we run into trouble.

also AH's contribution can not be overlooked. everyone said AH's impact doesnt show up on stats but the increase in the stats for guys around him. well, carter has what 8 sacks and orakpo 7? thats pretty evident.
Yeah Carter is having a pro-bowl season all of a sudden and Orakpo is inching his way into the DROY discussion.

We also essentially got two positions out of Orakpo-LB and DE. It's not like we could flip Oher back and forth between left and right tackle depending on the down

That's not to say I wouldn't have been happy with Oher.

But really, it shouldn't be about Oher vs. Orakpo. We should recall that we had no 2nd round pick to do anything with. And we took two linebackers in the middle rounds. Those were some missed opportunities to get offensive linemen

Yeah I don't understand our strategy. Either we go BPA in the middle rounds, which is retarded to begin with because talent discernment in the middle rounds is essentially a crap shoot, and we're awful at it apparently. Or we go for Position Need, which doesn't make any sense then to draft two MORE LBs after drafting Orakpo.

Yeah I don't understand our strategy. Either we go BPA in the middle rounds, which is retarded to begin with because talent discernment in the middle rounds is essentially a crap shoot, and we're awful at it apparently. Or we go for Position Need, which doesn't make any sense then to draft two MORE LBs after drafting Orakpo.

In retrospect that is the part that I don't get. If we had planned to play Rak at LB, then we took care of LB in the first round, why draft more?

In retrospect that is the part that I don't get. If we had planned to play Rak at LB, then we took care of LB in the first round, why draft more?

I am not defending the position necessarily, but DB's and LB's can play on special teams whereas OL cannot. I guess they were putting a higher priority on getting guys who could potentially play teams.

Because I wanted to be able to attack Cerrato in context, I went back and looked at the offensive lineman that he passed on in the draft (and this does not include those who were not available because of the Jason Taylor trade).

Kevin Barnes - passed on Jonathan Luigs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Luigs), T.J. Lang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T.J._Lang), Rich Ohrnberger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Ohrnberger), Seth Olsen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_Olsen) (all 4th round picks)

Cody Glenn - passed on Fenuki Tupou (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenuki_Tupou), Jamon Meredith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamon_Meredith), Duke Robinson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Robinson), Herman Johnson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Johnson), Andrew Gardner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Gardner_%28American_football%29)

Robert Hensen - passed on Matt Slauson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Slauson), Paul Fanaika (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Fanaika)

At the time I wanted Meredith, but he has since been released by Green Bay (a team with serious OL needs) and not sure if he has seen any time in Buffalo. Duke Robinson has not played in any games. Herman Johnson has not appeared in any games. Gardner has not appeared in any games. Which is not to say that the Redskins might not be able to use a few of those guys, or that they would not be better than Mike Williams, but I think the indictment of Cerrato is more a long-term neglect of the Oline rather than anything specific to drafting the two linebackers this year.

It only gets bad if you go back and look at all the offensive linemen that would have been available had the Redskins not traded a 2nd round pick for Jason Taylor. But I like to take comfort by reminding myself that Cerrato would have drafted a linebacker (Sintim?) in the 2nd anyway.

I am not defending the position necessarily, but DB's and LB's can play on special teams whereas OL cannot. I guess they were putting a higher priority on getting guys who could potentially play teams.

Because I wanted to be able to attack Cerrato in context, I went back and looked at the offensive lineman that he passed on in the draft (and this does not include those who were not available because of the Jason Taylor trade).

Kevin Barnes - passed on Jonathan Luigs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Luigs), T.J. Lang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T.J._Lang), Rich Ohrnberger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Ohrnberger), Seth Olsen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_Olsen) (all 4th round picks)

Cody Glenn - passed on Fenuki Tupou (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenuki_Tupou), Jamon Meredith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamon_Meredith), Duke Robinson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Robinson), Herman Johnson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Johnson), Andrew Gardner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Gardner_%28American_football%29)

Robert Hensen - passed on Matt Slauson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Slauson), Paul Fanaika (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Fanaika)

At the time I wanted Meredith, but he has since been released by Green Bay (a team with serious OL needs) and not sure if he has seen any time in Buffalo. Duke Robinson has not played in any games. Herman Johnson has not appeared in any games. Gardner has not appeared in any games. Which is not to say that the Redskins might not be able to use a few of those guys, or that they would not be better than Mike Williams, but I think the indictment of Cerrato is more a long-term neglect of the Oline rather than anything specific to drafting the two linebackers this year.

That is a reasonable and intelligent point.

It really is the 3rd+ round picks that has everyone ticked off I think. I would have loved to have gotten some o-linemen in the 3rd or so on even if they werent all that ready to start just yet. At least we would know we did the right thing to some degree.

Yeah I don't understand our strategy. Either we go BPA in the middle rounds, which is retarded to begin with because talent discernment in the middle rounds is essentially a crap shoot, and we're awful at it apparently. Or we go for Position Need, which doesn't make any sense then to draft two MORE LBs after drafting Orakpo.

Excellent point. I understand BPA at the top of the draft where the hope is that a first round pick will be a starter with the potential to be something special. At worst, you have young starting quality depth even if no immediate need.

In the middle rounds, it should all be about the best guy at position of need. It's even more of a crapshoot (Marques Colston any one?) so throw as many darts at the damn board as you can. No one expects a 4th-6th rounder to start but, what the hell, occasionally they do.