wtf is the deal w/ cutler

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JoeRedskin
11-13-2009, 09:51 AM
So happy I had him in Fantsay line up. Piece of crap!

You and me both. I have Palmer and Cutler as my Fantasy QB's - Two weeks ago, I started Cutler he puts up ~10 and Palmer on the bench puts up 35. Last week, I start Palmer and he puts up ~10 and Cutler puts up 25. This week start Cutler b/c Palmer is playing the Steelers and he gets - 3 (and my opponent has Gore who put up 14).

Expect Palmer to have a huge day against the Steelers.

MTK
11-13-2009, 09:53 AM
You and me both. I have Palmer and Cutler as my Fantasy QB's - Two weeks ago, I started Cutler he puts up ~10 and Palmer on the bench puts up 35. Last week, I start Palmer and he puts up ~10 and Cutler puts up 25. This week start Cutler b/c Palmer is playing the Steelers and he gets - 3 (and my opponent has Gore who put up 14).

Expect Palmer to have a huge day against the Steelers.

I feel ya, I play musical chairs with one of my teams where I have Rogers and Schaub. No matter who I start the other one always puts up bigger numbers. F me.

JoeRedskin
11-13-2009, 09:57 AM
In Denver, Cutler had a good line, very good WR's, a coach who loved him and a system built for him. On top of that, he has some talent. In Chicago, he's got a crappy line and no name WR's (back when the trade was made someone here said that Cutler's WR's in Chicago would be putting big numbers by mid-season. Well, it's mid-season and the only "receivers" putting up big numbers are the DB's).

He's Brett Favre without as much arm strength, moxie or charisma.

MTK
11-13-2009, 10:21 AM
Cutler does have a laid back way about him and his body language at times doesn't exude much confidence.

I find the comparison to Jeff George interesting, but I don't think Cutler is that bad in terms of not giving a shit about being a leader. Still, I think the comparison is interesting.

freddyg12
11-13-2009, 10:33 AM
He's Jeff George 2.0.. Tools that will make you drool but his talent and decision making fall well short of the level of his bravado. I think he's always going to be a guy who looks like he's about to turn the corner and then pull out a stinker like this. Like the old cliche, he's good enough to keep both teams in the game.

My thoughts exactly as I watched the game last night. He's not a bad teamate like George was, but at the same time watch this guy in interviews, if you didn't know who he was you'd think he was a defendant that's trying poorly to lie about a crime he committed.

As for espn saying 3 of the picks "weren't his fault" I just hope they're not counting the one he threw near the goal line to the nose tackle. His reciever was so covered yet the nose guard got to the ball before the dbs.

I know he's talented; great arm strength & athleticism, but it appears he's got a lot of growing up to do to be a winning qb.

Ruhskins
11-13-2009, 10:34 AM
Kurt Warner threw 5 interceptions two weeks ago and threw for 5 TDs last week.

Guys like Warner, Favre and Cutler play to win games. They try to make the difficult throws instead of dumping off to a RB in the flat.

Cutler looked like crap last night but at the same time he can get hot and beat any team.
I will take him over JC everyday of the week and twice on Sundays.

Actually a couple of times last night, if Cutler had thrown some passes away or check down, he would have avoided some of those interceptions. Nice cliche, but QBs also have to be smart and Cutler is playing terrible ball.

I wouldn't take him or Campbell at this point. However, I would want a QB that takes care of the ball and makes smart decisions, we know JC is not that, but Cutler isn't either.

DBUCHANON101
11-13-2009, 10:38 AM
Kurt Warner threw 5 interceptions two weeks ago and threw for 5 TDs last week.

Guys like Warner, Favre and Cutler play to win games. They try to make the difficult throws instead of dumping off to a RB in the flat.

Cutler looked like crap last night but at the same time he can get hot and beat any team.
I will take him over JC everyday of the week and twice on Sundays.

Agreed, plus look at his wr's NOT one of them is close to what we have. Teams know all he has is Olsen and they lock onto him anytime he gets inside the 20. Hell his best wr is a converted return man. Im sure he would take our wr's in a heartbeat over those scrubs he has now. Plus SF was on him most of the night.

MTK
11-13-2009, 10:42 AM
Actually a couple of times last night, if Cutler had thrown some passes away or check down, he would have avoided some of those interceptions. Nice cliche, but QBs also have to be smart and Cutler is playing terrible ball.

I wouldn't take him or Campbell at this point. However, I would want a QB that takes care of the ball and makes smart decisions, we know JC is not that, but Cutler isn't either.

Well said.

I'm always amazed when people say they could live with someone throwing picks as long as they are throwing TDs or not checking the ball down. A good QB knows when to take chances and when to check it down. Cutler is not playing smart football.

I think it's easy for people to say they would take Cutler, but I really think those same people would be up in arms and ready to run him out of town if we had him and his 17 INTs right now. He's hurting the Bears more than he's helping them. He's on pace to throw 30 picks. That's insane.

DBUCHANON101
11-13-2009, 10:44 AM
Its his first yr in the system :)
This excuse was brought to you by the JC supporters everywhere.

Redskins
11-13-2009, 10:50 AM
This is going to sound like a strange response which many of you will likely be completely unable to appreciate, but I attribute some of his failures to being diabetic. As a diabetic, I like to think I can see things occurring with just his facial expressions to include the color and consistency of his face and eyes. If they are red, distressed, and even if his lips are chapped I can get an idea of whether he is having a good day as a diabetic or a poor day. Often the signs I see make me think he is having a bad day. A bad day means he is weaker than other days, that his eyes may be blurry, that his decision making may be impaired and that his reactions may not be as crisp. The NFL is about elite athletes and I'm sad to say I'd never pick up a diabetic to play in the NFL, even one who is well controlled, as the reality is that it is a rollercoaster that other equally talented athletes don't need to deal with. Simply for the money and the profession, it's just not worth the risk to roll the dice on someone who has a factor outside of everyone else that may cause him to have a bad day and it’s a factor that often he can only control so much. Basically, he may actually be the most talented and best QB in the NFL, but I honestly believe his medical condition will never showcase these skills consistently enough to make others believe it. That’s not to say that I personally think he is the most talented, but the reality is that we’ll never know.

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