Campbell Comparables

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skinsfan69
11-10-2009, 01:47 PM
On a side note I think it's time for both parties to move on. I really wish JC well. He can play in the NFL if he's in the right offense and has the players around him. He's a high character stand up guy and hopefully he will find some stability w/ another team.

Dirtbag59
11-10-2009, 01:49 PM
I use to think that Josh Freeman was going to be comprable to Campbell but thats already starting to be proven wrong.

The Goat
11-10-2009, 02:11 PM
I was a big JC advocate over the last two seasons. My thinking was Zorn's QB-coach experience would pay huge dividends and Jason would take a big leap forward in decision-making and accuracy. I've also been a realist about our "league-worst" FO situation and the atrocious roster decisions regarding the oline. While it's real tempting to look and say Jason is getting killed out there and doesn't have much to work with, I'm focused on games 2 thru 4 when the line was better intact and we were playing the other really bad teams in football. I haven't seen any leadership from Jason in good, or bad, situations. Our offense is disgustingly sloppy regardless of who's healthy or what factors are involved, from Moss to Sellers to CP it's just a shit-show out there.

Now I'm well aware the discipline thing starts at the top. "Attitude reflect leadership" as they say, and the leadership which should start within the FO (NOT THE OWNER, but in our sad case it's one and the same) falls somewhere between non-existent and barely detectable at Redskins Park. Again the weird little toady Snyder insists on having as the face of the franchise utterly lacks inter-personal skills, as admitted even by Snyder's biggest apologists here and elsewhere, and therefor nobody expects anything from Cerrato in the leadership dept. But Jason is the guy holding the ball on game-day, he's the only guy left to demand a strong performance and solid execution from the guys surrounding him (don't tell me that should be Zorn's job, Snyder hired the gee-wiz coach precisely because Zorn isn't a fiery personality). I don't think anyone can honestly argue Jason has proven to be a leader. It has nothing to do w/ sacks or knock-downs or any other QB stat so far as I can tell. Have you ever seen Jason get into Moss', Seller's, or any of his teammates face after they gave up on a play or killed the 3rd down conversion? Never. On the sidelines. On the way to the locker room. Never. I see Brady (who I don't even like) do it. I see Peyton do it on the effing field in full view of everyone watching. I see Brees do it but you can always see a look of encouragement there too which I find exceptional. I expected to see it from Jason this year, but it's not gonna happen. He's not a leader and therefor I don't really see his numbers as important...the results will never be there.

rbanerjee23
11-10-2009, 02:17 PM
Campbell will never win a super bowl but he is not the main reason for this team messing up as bad as it has.

Chico23231
11-10-2009, 02:23 PM
Campbell will never win a super bowl but he is not the main reason for this team messing up as bad as it has.

I would def agree with him not being the main problem, that would be Vinny.

GTripp0012
11-10-2009, 02:32 PM
I just hope that we haven't damaged JC and made him permanently gun shy like what happened to Carr.You've inspired (sort of) my new sig.

Note that I'm not saying that new team can't be the 2010 Redskins. I just mean change in the most abstract sense.

And if he does have David Carr disease, well, a bunch of people are waiting in line to tell me "I told you so".

GTripp0012
11-10-2009, 02:35 PM
I use to think that Josh Freeman was going to be comprable to Campbell but thats already starting to be proven wrong.Nominated for conclusion jump of the week (CJOW for the acronymn fans among us).

Dirtbag59
11-10-2009, 04:08 PM
Nominated for conclusion jump of the week (CJOW for the acronymn fans among us).

Lol, which conclusion? Freeman being good, or Freeman being like soup? Because if it's the latter I got that part from Freemans draft profile on NFL.com and ran with it.

Lotus
11-10-2009, 04:14 PM
Lol, which conclusion? Freeman being good, or Freeman being like soup? Because if it's the latter I got that part from Freemans draft profile on NFL.com and ran with it.

Dirtbag, where is your sig from? I've forgotten where I saw that "are belong to us" phrase. Is that from Space Invaders?

firstdown
11-10-2009, 04:39 PM
I just hope that we haven't damaged JC and made him permanently gun shy like what happened to Carr.
Well if that is the case then he is not a winner or a QB that should be a starter. Never hear this stuff said about big Ben who by the way has been sacked 215 times in 5 yrs to JC's 91 and if you just look at the past three yrs JC has 84 and Ben 116.

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