Campbell Comparables

The names on GTRIPPs list, Elway, Jaworski, Big Ben, Simms, etc. may have have performed comparably when they had similar sack totals, but what they did in other years was vastly better than Campbell has shown himself capable of. But I know there are other factors like coaching, wide receivers, systems, etc. Maybe he's been permanently damaged by the Skins, maybe he'll do well with another team, maybe he's just average no matter what the circumstances. We may never know.Well, you're right. They have (with the exception of Carr). But a lot of them hadn't prior to the high sack season.

The main point of starting this thread was to pose the question: what can we do as a team to get more out of our quarterback position? The Pittsburgh comparison is really close because that's a team that lost Faneca and had a poor offensive line for basically a 16-game season, and Roethlisberger played skittish and inconsistent all year.

Right now, Ben's damn near 70% completion and he's getting good protection from his line. He's having an MVP type season. Admittedly, their OL is much younger than ours is, but it's 4 of the same 5 guys who played last year when they struggled. Zorn and Arians run similar schemes, although I certainly don't feel they are equals.

The Steelers had a really bad offense last year, and got it fixed in one offseason (plus a postseason). I'm not even suggesting that the Redskins should even attempt to fix this crap in a single offseason, but my question is: what would we have to do to get a similar result?

Until you are in the huddle, or around the team for a considerable amount ot time, assumptions like this are asinine.I just assumed he was in the huddle. He sounded confident.

I have seen nothing out of Jason this year that says he is anything more than a backup QB, and i definatley don't see him staying here next year.

I do not think jason is a bad quarterback. But i don't think he is a starter because he lacks motivation and doesnt seem to be able to "fire up" the team. He will go somewhere and do well as a backup, ala Charlie Batch. Come in and play a game or 2 and the team at least has a chance....but he isn't the answer for 16 games..

I have seen nothing out of Jason this year that says he is anything more than a backup QB, and i definatley don't see him staying here next year.

I do not think jason is a bad quarterback. But i don't think he is a starter because he lacks motivation and doesnt seem to be able to "fire up" the team. He will go somewhere and do well as a backup, ala Charlie Batch. Come in and play a game or 2 and the team at least has a chance....but he isn't the answer for 16 games..

Statements like that amaze me.

Until you are in the huddle, or around the team for a considerable amount ot time, assumptions like this are asinine.

Dont need to be in a huddle to see. I see it in interviews, his demeanor on the field, and most important in the win-loss column.

Im not attacking his character, his seems to be a fine likeable person. Hell, I wanted him to succeed. Thats not the issue. Im thinking of the body of work and his ability to carry a team to a win, ability to lead a team a tough patch in a season, and make people around him better. You either got it or you dont. I dont think he has it.

I pretty sure the FO is convinced and will being persuing other options in the offseason like they did last offseason, so we are really debating nothing at this point.

Dont need to be in a huddle to see. I see it in interviews, his demeanor on the field, and most important in the win-loss column.

Im not attacking his character, his seems to be a fine likeable person. Hell, I wanted him to succeed. Thats not the issue. Im thinking of the body of work and his ability to carry a team to a win, ability to lead a team a tough patch in a season, and make people around him better. You either got it or you dont. I dont think he has it.

I pretty sure the FO is convinced and will being persuing other options in the offseason like they did last offseason, so we are really debating nothing at this point.I think the implied assumption here is that you have to be as smart as you to be able to read between the lines like this, and all of us mindless drones that look at numbers just can't see what you can.

I just assumed he was in the huddle. He sounded confident.

Im confident he wont be around next season. Best of luck to JC, would like to see him win somewhere else in a stable, well run organization. He has worked too hard.

I think the implied assumption here is that you have to be as smart as you to be able to read between the lines like this, and all of us mindless drones that look at numbers just can't see what you can.

Not really, i love the stats but just looking past that right now. He stats are what they are...not that great. Mindless drones?...Never

Campbell is going to get the hell out of this schizophrenic and disjointed club, move on to a more disciplined and organized franchise, and prove to be a more than decent QB. The 'Skins have probably ruined him from ever reaching true elite status, but he is going to shine somewhere else that isn't the goddamn freak show we've been the past two seasons.

He'll join a host of other players that we let go of and who shined once they got the hell out of here.

I'm fairly certain of that based on nothing but my gut.

And if I were him, I couldn't get out of this circus fast enough.

Should'nt this be put into #'s don't lie.
Compare wins and losses. Compare redzone stats. Compare thrird down completion percentages. Look at touchdown numbers. Jason campbell is not a franchise quarterback. Lets start looking at QB prospects in the draft.