Why we need to rout for 2-14

Can't get on the guy just because he is rooting for them to lose out. If he was like an anti fan yeah nail him all you want. The thing is he has good reasons to want them to lose and that is a high draft pick, plus the assurance of Vinny's ouster plus a probable GM. The season is a bust anyway. We are not headed to the playoffs, thus any game past loss number 8-9 is a waste of time to be honest. You guys want Vinny gone and a real GM in place? Then you better hope for nothing better than a 4-12 season. Sounds treasonous, but it is a necessary evil to bear for the future of the club.

If you root for your team to lose then you are not a true fan. Giving up hope and not expecting any more wins is fine but week in and week out you have to stand by your team. If you are going to root for them to lose, stop coming to this forum.

Dude, the campaign for '09 is toast. 3 more losses will cinch us not going to the postseason. What happens if a minor miracle happens and they win 4-5 games? We lose a top 5 pick and might have to deal with Cerrato still being here. Not like this could happen in reality, but who knows. We are almost already assured of missing the postseason, so what is the point once we hit loss 8-9 by going all out in support? Billy boy is making sense. The season is trash, already, let's hope they suck the rest of the way to build a better future.

I agree with the OP 100%. I really hope we go 2-14. I've been a player/fan of Football way to long not to recognize a deplorable team when I see one. When I look at the Redskins, I see*Ghost's* out on the field. Apparitions that will be separated from the organization come the 2010 NFL season. As President Obama so eloquently retorts, "This (season) is a teachable moment". A stark reminder of what not to do when you're running an NFL organization.

While this season is difficult to watch in the long run we need to rout for the Skins to be as bad as possible. The worst thing that can happen for this team would be to roll off 5-6 wins and be as close to .500 - this would only provide a temporary smokescreen for the true talent level of the team (or lack of talent and depth I should say) and give Synder reason to keep his current front office structure and team building philopsphy in place.

This is simply not about losing to get better draft positioning in the upcoming offseason - we are not just one player or one draft from turning things around - we are likely 3 full drafts from turning the corner and building a true foundation and injecting the team with much needed youth in all reality. I hate this because lets be honest - we always seem to be rebuilding in the offseason - but if we are to ever truely turn the corner we need to flush the entire system down the drain from top to bottom - and 2-14 justifies that a lot more than 7-9.

I agree, we get a top draft pick we could trade down, get maybe two first round lower picks, a some great 2nds, our team will be a better team, with the pieces we have........ i trade this year, for a great one next year.

The worst thing about us going 2-14 this year is the fact that we're going 2-14 before we blow everything up and bring in new management, coaches, players...etc. So, after reading Smootsmack's thread on "Getting to know the Redskins' Front Office" I imagine that once we do blow up everything, we might as well expect another few win season next year unless the stars happen to align just nicely for us. I don't mind a 2-14 season when it's because the team is young and still trying to build and grow.

I just imagine despite whatever top draft picks we do get, it's going to be a long haul for us to get back to where we're all hoping the Redskins will be in a few years.

The franchise has never lost more than 12 games in a single season. Worst season record was 1-12-1 in '61.

I am a HUGE fan and will love the B&G until I die...howver, from a business standpoint, I have to look long-term and put my emotions aside. Therefore, I'm hoping for a top 3 pick (not 1st overall).

The worst thing about us going 2-14 this year is the fact that we're going 2-14 before we blow everything up and bring in new management, coaches, players...etc. So, after reading Smootsmack's thread on "Getting to know the Redskins' Front Office" I imagine that once we do blow up everything, we might as well expect another few win season next year unless the stars happen to align just nicely for us. I don't mind a 2-14 season when it's because the team is young and still trying to build and grow.

I just imagine despite whatever top draft picks we do get, it's going to be a long haul for us to get back to where we're all hoping the Redskins will be in a few years.

I would be fine if they did what the Caps did when they came out and said 'we're basically going to blow this team up, you're not going to like it but we'll be better off in the long run.' Thanks to good draft position they were able to select Backstrom, Ovechkin, Semin, and Alzner. A group that will eventually come full cirlcle and provide the foundation for the team along with other young players who were selected later in the early part of the draft like Varly, Carlson, and Green. On top of that they have seemingly random players that constantly step up, Flash comes to mind as of late. To me their success is attributed to a quality front office, not just the fact that they got lucky enough to select Ovechkin.

At the same time I'm scared that we could end up like the 49ers did under Mike Nolan. During that time they did all the right things including drafting young players, getting rid of Vinny, and cutting aging high priced veterans. Thats why I believe having quality talent elevaluators is easily the most important part of building a team.

Cerrato is mediocre at best, sure he can select a few good players, but at the same time he obviously has little idea, if any, as to how to build a team over the long haul opting for a "one player away approach, as I avoid adding quality prospects along the O-Line."

Adding Gibbs might be a nice touch but I'm convinced that he's only a great coach. I say this because despite a structure that wasn't the best at selecting talent, he was still able to lead the team to the playoffs twice in two years, and during that last run they seemed poised to take a run at the title, or as my Dad put it "no one wants to play them." Since Gibbs has left the team has lost the discipline and focus it had under his direction, which has resulted in the roster being exposed.

If I was in charge I would seriously consider cutting loose many of the high priced veterans during the uncapped year including Portis, Rabach, Griffin, ARE, DeAngelo Hall, I'd also be tempted to cut Andre Carter after this year. Fletcher can't be cut in my view because he's to much of a leader, playmaker, and overall high character player. Haynesworth has simply been dominant and will hopefully last and play hard enough to oversee a rebuilding effort.