GusFrerotte
10-10-2010, 11:37 PM
I think the OP should come back and suggest a new thread title. Or at least admit he's been proven wrong.
Where is Goat by the way? His thread has been proven wrong this season, but he is a Warpath regular and a solid poster. I haven't seen him post in a while now.
Longtimefan
10-10-2010, 11:57 PM
Actually I love seeing this thread title, because it's amazing how much one position change can make. What a beast.
What's more amazing is how we sometimes judge players a little too prematurely, in praise as well as critical.
mooby
10-11-2010, 12:07 AM
Where is Goat by the way? His thread has been proven wrong this season, but he is a Warpath regular and a solid poster. I haven't seen him post in a while now.
As the man who started the thread "Defense has Major Issues" after we got our asses kicked by the Rams in Week 3 I know a little bit of how Goat must be feeling about this thread.
Basically it was a little premature to start it knowing we were transitioning to a 3-4 defense and it would take time and we should've been prepared to see games like that during the transition, and in consecutive weeks our defense has been a major reason for our consecutive wins while our offense has been a big reason why these games have been close.
I'm sure a lot of us felt like Landry was playing out of position under Blatche and while I certainly believed if we had a defensive coordinator who used him to his strengths he could've been effective, well obviously there are others who thought Landry was a bust.
I'm definitely not proud to be that guy (I especially won't be happy to be 'that guy' if our defense becomes dominant in latter years in the 3-4) whose thread might be brought back up as an example of panicking too early, and I'm sure Goat doesn't want to hang around knowing everybody will remember him as the guy who thought Landry was a bust if Landry continues playing like this for years to come.
Lotus
10-11-2010, 12:13 AM
Where is Goat by the way? His thread has been proven wrong this season, but he is a Warpath regular and a solid poster. I haven't seen him post in a while now.
I don't know. I miss The Goat. And in his defense there were others in this thread who agreed with him.
Pocket$ $traight
10-11-2010, 12:53 AM
Actually I love seeing this thread title, because it's amazing how much one position change can make. What a beast.
He was NEVER a bust. This thread was idiotic the second it was posted.
Devin Thomas is a bust... There is a 95% chance that Kelly is a bust. Tryon was a bust. That punter who beat out the other punter is a bust (I could go on and on) Laron Landry was never a bust.
I don't know. I miss The Goat. And in his defense there were others in this thread who agreed with him.
He's still here, he just posted the other day. He's just conveniently avoiding this thread.
30gut
10-11-2010, 10:23 AM
Seem to be talking about doughty a whole bunch. Just wanted to express my desire to replace him with someone more competent. He was good in run support, but we seem to be playing him in pass support alot, and he seems to get owned by pretty much everyone. I might be wrong on this, but Haslett's system seems to have the safety's be more important than the corner's. I'm not saying that Doughty is bad, he's just not quite good enough for me to feel comfortable with him roaming around there in pass coverage all the time in this system.
Dude.
Doughty finished the season after the Raiders game as the FS.
In Blache's scheme the FS has more ground to cover then in this current system.
Logic would say that if he could play FS in that system he can play FS in this system.
Also, Doughty is a sure tackler he's not a big hitter but he doesn't miss.
I'm not down on Moore in any way but i'm sure that Reed would have made the tackles on S. Jackson's long run in the Rams game and B. Jacksons long run in the Packers game.
HTTR
Like i said at the time this thread was started
Landry was never a bust.
redsk1
10-11-2010, 10:28 AM
LL didn't look very good in other systems, so the thread at the time was legit.
In this system, he's playing like one of the best safeties in the league. Matter of fact, he's 2nd in the NFL in tackles. Not the NFC, the NFL. You could always see the guy is talented, now he's playing like it.
mredskins
10-11-2010, 10:43 AM
This from Peter King this morning:
Move over, Troy Polamalu.
It's good to be able to watch all the games in the NBC viewing room on Sundays, because it allows me to keep an eye on players around the league. And in the first five weeks of the season, no single defensive player in the league has jumped from relative anonymity to stardom like strong safety LaRon Landry of the Redskins. He leads the NFL in tackles (52) through five weeks, and Sunday, he was the most important Redskin defender in a 16-13 beat down of Aaron Rodgers and the Packers.
Talk about starting and finishing the job: In the first minute of the game, on the first Green Bay series of the day, he creamed tight end Donald Lee and forced a fumble that the Redskins recovered. In the 63rd minute, in overtime, Landry picked off a Rodgers pass intended for the forgotten Greg Jennings; five minutes later, a Graham Gano field goal won the game.
"He's fast, he's a hitter and loves to play,'' coach Mike Shanahan said after the game. "He's that way every snap -- obviously a great football player.''
Landry was a first-round pick by the Redskins in 2007, and the coach then, Joe Gibbs, wanted to pair him with Sean Taylor long-term to give Washington the most feared set of safeties in the league. But Taylor died that November, and when Gibbs retired after the season, the new regime moved Landry from strong safety to free.
"My rookie year, I felt I was in the right position to take advantage of how aggressive I like to play,'' Landry told me last night. "But when the staff changed, coach [Greg] Blache moved me, and nothing against him, I didn't feel it took advantage of what I did best. As a free safety, I'm kind of the savior back there, sitting back. That's not how I play best.''
But new coordinator Jim Haslett moved him to strong again, and Landry is comfortable in run-support and the occasional blitz. Against Green Bay, he led a disguising Washington scheme that seemed to frustrate Rodgers all afternoon.
"I think the best is yet to come for me,'' he said. And maybe for the Redskins too. They've beaten Philadelphia and Dallas already, and they're tied for first in the NFC East. Landry's nearly as big a reason for that as Donovan McNabb.
LL is our MVP so far in my book.