mlmdub130
12-13-2009, 12:46 PM
I'd just ask people to think of it this way: how many safeties would you trade Landry for right now, today? Remember he was the 6th overall pick. I think if there are more than 10 guys you can think of he's a bust because that puts him well outside his draft status. I don't follow enough teams to name every guy I'd rather have but I easily get to 10. For example I can't think of Oakland's good safety but I've watched him a few games and would take him over Landry is a second...that's a dude that lays the would instead of flailing his body on the ground or glancing off the ball-carrier.
i'm right there with you, thats exactly how i see it, but i do think he has one more year before it's official and i hope he get's someone to get through to him, i think his main problem is the extreme lack of disciplne
skinster
12-13-2009, 01:19 PM
I have a question about landry: obviously he has the raw talent to be amazing, but simply gets fooled too much. I know it is possible that he will figure things out, but how likely is it? I have only been following football for about 5-6 years now and dont feel like I have seen enough evidence to say that it is likely that even though he hasnt figured it out in his first 3 seasons, there is still hope. Can anyone give me a few examples to say otherwise (defensive back evidence please)?
30gut
12-14-2009, 12:02 AM
30gut; I believe that it's already believed that Landry is better fitted as SS instead of FS, only because of his aggressiveness.. Landry loves to be violent on the field; the only problem is by being as a FS, the player must be patient - and patience does not appear to be something Landry posses..
I hear what you're saying and i somewhat agree; Landry is aggressive and does like to make the big hit.
But i disagree that Landry lacks the patience.
I think people are over reacting, as the usual, to a couple (recent) mistakes as indicative of his usual play.
The same mistakes that any DB makes, he got beat.
But, in my observations Landry rarely gets beat.
Can you recall Landry getting beat other times this year?
Not that it makes it okay; but he got beat playing Cover 2 which is coverage we don't use often, a coverage that has different responsibilities then Landry's normal Cover 1/3 deep middle coverage.
Yes Moore did play and will play like usual; but my point is that Moore did not play most of game, like whole lot more than half of game.. But what I (and few others) was hoping was that Moore will become full-time starter as FS.. But it did not happen, that was the only thing I was trying to say..
I guess it depends on which you consider the more important position.
I think most coaches consider the FS more important then SS and therefore put their best S at FS.
The only way i would start Moore as FS is if he was the best S on the team.
SCRedskinsFan
12-14-2009, 10:38 AM
Just how much SS did Landry play yesterday? There is no question that he seemed more effective/menacing near the line... Just the thought of Landry shooting the gap to blitz has to give the QB the jitters.
Just a thought: I also have the sense that Landry craves more "direct involvement" on each play, as opposed to the longer distances he covers at FS often without being able to lay the wood on someone.
BigHairedAristocrat
12-14-2009, 04:03 PM
I never really paid attention to it, because I forgot during the game that LL was our "starting" SS yesterday. So who played the majority of snaps at FS? Doughty and Landry both seemed to be on the field nearly every single play, so perhaps LL didnt really play SS that much.
Pocket$ $traight
12-14-2009, 04:09 PM
The bottom line is that Landry is our best FS and SS. So how would getting rid of him help the team? We would trade him for what? 2nd round pick? Probably lower and then we would have to add safety to the list of needs.
How about we coach him up and let him play his natural position (SS) more often. Taylor was doing the same things in 2006 and he came back to be an All-Pro in 07.
The bottom line is that Landry is our best FS and SS. So how would getting rid of him help the team? We would trade him for what? 2nd round pick? Probably lower and then we would have to add safety to the list of needs.
How about we coach him up and let him play his natural position (SS) more often. Taylor was doing the same things in 2006 and he came back to be an All-Pro in 07.
Everyone seems to forget ST went through his share of struggles in year 3 before finally seeming to put it all together in year 4.
Landry has too much talent and potential to be looking to trade him. Yes he has his issues in coverage, but put the guy close to the line and let him body rock and he's one of the better strong safeties around.
diehardskin2982
12-14-2009, 04:14 PM
i blame Jackson the safties coach
SolidSnake84
12-14-2009, 04:15 PM
Give Landry one more year. He played well yesterday...but they were using him differently.
Landry needs to Mature thats all