Gibbs defends Brunell

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That Guy
10-17-2004, 07:34 PM
If he can heal and run to make the short 20 to 30 yd passes he will be successful. The timing is still not there for Brunell and Jacobs on the long pass.

I'm not sure that Ramsey is approaching his secondary role to Brunell in good favor. you realize he's only completed 3 long passes the entire season and hasn't been remotely close on any of the others right? its not the timing as much as a jelly arm...
and wtf do you keep pulling this crap about ramsey not doing sh*t right??? did you catch him talking crap or something? seriously, unless you have some kind of proof or source, you need to cut that...

If Gibb's message is consistentcy and confidence in a QB then I will defend him to the end because that's something we didn't have for the last two years. If the Redskins win the next 3 games, (Packers, Lions and Bengals)
with Brunell, there should be some kind of an apology thread to Gibbs for accusing him of being blind to the obvious facts. And what are the obvious facts? A young talented QB who threw 3 INTS in his only game appearance. 2 sacks in the same. Seems incapable of moving in the pocket. On the other hand, an injured veteran with a proven record, whose skills have deminished, but still able to lead his team with a weak O line. Now loyalty to Brunell has nothing to do with Ramsey on the bench. Ramsey had his chance and blew it. If Rasmey won the game against the Giants, do you think Gibbs would have benched him anyway?
history lesson: Gibbs sticks with crappy QBs, always has... even when they're REALLY REALLY stinking it up, check the records. you mention ramsey had 2 sacks, but forgot to mention that BRUNELL HAD 3, and MB gave up points and couldn't drive down the field, unlike ramsey. Not to mention that ramsey didn't have a full week with the 1st team, and was thrown in 14 points down... he got seven... brunell hasn't even been able to come back for 3.

In five games brunell has proven he's old and tired, give ramsey a full game... IT CAN'T BE ANY WORSE. under 100 yards?? in two games?? five turnovers taken back for touchdowns??? come on...

Daseal
10-17-2004, 08:34 PM
Brunell was 8/22 with 95 yards.

Let's break down the stats a bit farther.

5 rushes were throw plays he botched. 8/27.
He got sacked once, so that was another pass play: 8/28. 8/28 with an Int. That is absolutely pathetic. 29% of his throws actually get caught. Sometimes this year dropped balls have been a problem. His play has been absolutely pathetic. Maybe Joe needs to take a step back and realize what ever fan, writter, and commentator for miles sees!

ZackMills
10-17-2004, 09:11 PM
attaboy gibbs, finally a smart move sticking with mark

offiss
10-17-2004, 09:15 PM
I really am tired of hearing about how Ramsey isn't any good, while Brunell stink's the place up every week, worse than any game I have ever seen Ramsey play, Ramsey is still a kid, and the bottom line, he showed more potential than either Carr, or Harrington, who by the way have seen far more playing time than Ramsey, anyone who say's this kid has proven he can't play, has very little understanding of the game.

SUNRA
10-17-2004, 09:28 PM
you realize he's only completed 3 long passes the entire season and hasn't been remotely close on any of the others right? its not the timing as much as a jelly arm...
and wtf do you keep pulling this crap about ramsey not doing sh*t right??? did you catch him talking crap or something? seriously, unless you have some kind of proof or source, you need to cut that...


history lesson: Gibbs sticks with crappy QBs, always has... even when they're REALLY REALLY stinking it up, check the records. you mention ramsey had 2 sacks, but forgot to mention that BRUNELL HAD 3, and MB gave up points and couldn't drive down the field, unlike ramsey. Not to mention that ramsey didn't have a full week with the 1st team, and was thrown in 14 points down... he got seven... brunell hasn't even been able to come back for 3.

In five games brunell has proven he's old and tired, give ramsey a full game... IT CAN'T BE ANY WORSE. under 100 yards?? in two games?? five turnovers taken back for touchdowns??? come on...

First of all, I'm gonna keep sh@$ting on Ramsey as long you keep pulling him out of your a@#$. The most illlogical statement you made was play Ramsey for a full game, it can't be any worse . Oh you don't mine losing with him because at least he put up good numbers right? I think passing yard stats mean more to you than wins.

You're beating a dead horse and the fact still remains that Brunell is starting in two weeks. So take a deep breath and cheer for the Redskins to win with Brunell rather than hoping Brunell loses his job.

skinsguy
10-17-2004, 09:36 PM
History lessons for you guys:

Gibbs won Super Bowls with Joe Theismann, Doug Williams, and Mark Rypien. Out of those three names, the only one that I felt was a "franchise" player was joe Theismann. Doug Williams was a flash in the pan as well as Rypien yet Gibbs was successful with them. When this offense is gelled completely, it really won't matter who the QB is. Now, certainly I haven't been too impressed by Brunell, but I still don't think Ramsey at this point can do a better job...but that isn't to say that Brunell is doing an outstanding job because he's not...bottom line:

I really can care less who the QB is as long as the Redskins win! Heck, bring back Doug Williams or Mark Rypien...heck I'll play...just let the Redskins win!

Hogskin
10-17-2004, 09:57 PM
Well, if you guys recall, *I* put a history lesson in a couple threads last week. It was related to what I saw as Gibbs' one an only MAJOR flaw as a head coach. That is his stubborn refusal to replace a QB that is stinking up the joint. And you Brunell fans can say what you like, there was no excuse for some of those horrible, horrible passes. He is awful at this point in his career.

Theismann was at the same point in HIS career (per my "history lesson" from last week), and the only thing that got him out of there and transformed a team headed under .500 to 10-6 was LT breaking his leg. I hope Gibbs realizes by tomorrow that he can go nowhere with this guy at the helm the rest of the season. If not, I will have to revise my 9-7 projection that is clearly still attainable with someone that can complete a downfield pass and can move a PRO offense.

Brunell is washed up. Period.

SKINSnCANES
10-17-2004, 10:00 PM
lol, sunra has been leading an argument in the last two threads i checked

SUNRA
10-17-2004, 10:04 PM
lol, sunra has been leading an argument in the last two threads i checked

I'm glad you checked. Thank you Eyewitness News for your report.

SKINSnCANES
10-17-2004, 10:06 PM
as a sided note sunra. let me ask you. I see you are from jersey city. Is that anywhere near Dover NJ. I have to move there for work in six months and have been trying to find out about jersey and that area specifically.

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