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Ruhskins 11-18-2009, 12:36 AM completely wrong? how so?
reggie has played pretty well with the exception of his fumbles.....tell me again why im wrong?
you're just trying to be facetious but you dont realize that i dont care how much you think you're making fun of me......your team is in shambles....the joke is on you
But I've seen a few games, how could that be wrong? You're just being a hater.
On a serious note, where's your response about my reply to your Betts post? I'm still waiting.
CantonLegend 11-18-2009, 12:44 AM The drop off in production for a RB is not just based on age, but age + number of carries. While Betts may be older than Portis, Betts has not had the same number of carries (and therefore the same amount of punishment) than Portis has. So in this particular fact that you are bringing up to "make your case" you are WRONG. Sadly, you'll just laugh it off and put more pictures of clowns or some other crap.
lol that was a sarcastic statement based on what your peers are offering up as suggestions for why portis is done.....hes too old.....
portis isnt too old.....there isnt an age limit to be a good running back in the league.....different factors result in decreases in production....i was merely trying to point out how foolish that argument is.....and you responded exactly how i expected thereby proving my point even further
Well this is a naive simple-minded argument which I'll disprove, however I'm sure you'll laugh it off or something.
Many people are making the argument that Betts has made a more significant impact with his running this season than Portis has. While Portis (494 yds) may have more yards than Betts' 205 yds. (since he has played more games than Betts); Betts in two games has had a higher per game rushing yard average (4.1, 4.7) than Portis had in the first half of the season, and he has already doubled the number of TDs (2) that Portis scored (1).
once again....a sarcastic statement....the entire post was sarcasm bro
however, you are using 2 games to prove betts is better than portis? :rofl:
Ok, this is where you have to do this moronic thing of being specific about your claims and mention facts that support your argument. So allow me to make the provide the following information:
- Betts was drafted in the Spurrier regime in the 2nd round of the 2002 draft. A RB by the name of Stephen Davis was still the RB during that season.
- In 2003, the team brought Trung Canidate to be the RB (if memory serves me right), Betts only played 9 games that season and ran for 255 yds, almost half of what Canidate produced (600 yds) in 11 games.
- By 2004, Joe Gibbs decided to bring Portis in the blockbuster trade, Betts was a leftover from the Spurrier era.
Now Betts did have the chance to become the starter in 2006 when Portis went down with injury, and had a 1,174 yds season. However, this is when Portis was in his prime, and of course the team would not get rid of Portis at that stage.
So given this information, I don't understand where you see a situation where Betts was even given the chance to be the starter...save for 2006, in a year that he actually gave the front office a reason for him to be the starter.
betts has been in the league for 8 seasons and has cracked the starting lineup only a handful of times when the real starter has gone down with an injury.........
one thing im curious about tho....wouldnt the coaching staff put the best RB out on the field? if betts was better he would've started over portis.....he doesnt.....shouldnt that tell you something?
CantonLegend 11-18-2009, 12:46 AM But I've seen a few games, how could that be wrong? You're just being a hater.
lol i guess you're right......i am a bush hater......ive always been a bush hater.....my g/f and ex g/fs will tell you that i've always hated bush......theres nothing good that ever came from a bush
On a serious note, where's your response about my reply to your Betts post? I'm still waiting.
i can only post replies so fast.....the nonsense spewing from you guys is coming too fast and it takes me awhile to get to all of it
you will get your turn if you sit down and wait patiently.....until then just keep looking up at me with your puppy dog eyes
Ruhskins 11-18-2009, 12:49 AM lol i guess you're right......i am a bush hater......ive always been a bush hater.....my g/f and ex g/fs will tell you that i've always hated bush......theres nothing good that ever came from a bush
So you are wrong about the fumbles. Wow, you can get a lot by watching just a handful of games.
Reggie Bush needs to get more carries, I mean the Saints picked him with the #2 for a reason. He looks superb in the handful of games I've watched.
Lotus 11-18-2009, 12:53 AM did i not say which games i watched? sorry....normally i would just talk slow so people like you can understand what im saying
i guess i could try to type it slower.....i guess
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Look, jerk, you were asked many times. You dodged the question repeatedly. You only produced that list under verbal duress. Then you treat us like we are the dicks?
And you continue to make grand claims about the 2009 Redskins despite seeing only a third of their games.
I've never asked for someone to be banned before but please ban this person.
CantonLegend 11-18-2009, 12:54 AM So you are wrong about the fumbles. You're right, you can get a lot by watching just a handful of games.
i think we are talking about 2 different bushes
fumbles are costly no matter what team, what player, and what game it is
AP is arguably the best RB in the league and is a fumbling machine....but that doesnt stop him from being a productive back
reggie is productive.....but his fumbles have been costly.....unfortunately, none of our backs have had a ton of luck holding on to the ball including drew brees and because of that reggie has slipped back into the starting lineup
against the falcons and panthers he started showing some aggressive running and started lowering his shoulder to get the tough yards whereas, in the past, he would've ducked out of bounds.....hes a young pup still and he will continue to learn and get better
but i still have no idea what you're trying to say....i agreed with you that bush is a good player even tho i think you were being sarcastic......i wasnt
CantonLegend 11-18-2009, 12:56 AM Look, jerk, you were asked many times. You dodged the question repeatedly. You only produced that list under verbal duress. Then you treat us like we are the dicks?
And you continue to make grand claims about the 2009 Redskins despite seeing only a third of their games.
I've never asked for someone to be banned before but please ban this person.
aw im sorry i didnt mean to hurt your feelings......how about a hug?
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i posted the games ive watched earlier in this thread but you guys ignored it.....so i had to post it slower so you guys would catch it......next time read my post the first time so i dont have to repeat myself
remember that i offered up an open invitation to visit my home site.....you all are more than welcome to lurk, troll, post....whatever...and you will not be treated with disrespect
Ruhskins 11-18-2009, 12:58 AM one thing im curious about tho....wouldnt the coaching staff put the best RB out on the field? if betts was better he would've started over portis.....he doesnt.....shouldnt that tell you something?
If Betts continues to produce the same way he has, I'm sure the coaching staff would want to put the best RB out on the field. However, Portis happens to have a direct line to the ownership and would run his mouth in the local media about it, which I'm sure you can pick up in the few games you've seen.
I don't think there's a fan that will discredit and ignore the accomplishments that Portis has had as a Redskins. However, we're not being narrow-minded like you are by saying that just because he was great before he should be the starter in a year when injuries/age/faulty o-line/not practicing/etc., etc. have caused him to have a subpar first half of the season.
You just like to fuck with people and come up with your ignorant ramblings about how great he was.
If Portis was healthy and in his past form, there wouldn't even be a discussion. But unfortunately for your piss poor argument, he's not.
Ruhskins 11-18-2009, 01:01 AM i think we are talking about 2 different bushes
fumbles are costly no matter what team, what player, and what game it is
AP is arguably the best RB in the league and is a fumbling machine....but that doesnt stop him from being a productive back
reggie is productive.....but his fumbles have been costly.....unfortunately, none of our backs have had a ton of luck holding on to the ball including drew brees and because of that reggie has slipped back into the starting lineup
against the falcons and panthers he started showing some aggressive running and started lowering his shoulder to get the tough yards whereas, in the past, he would've ducked out of bounds.....hes a young pup still and he will continue to learn and get better
but i still have no idea what you're trying to say....i agreed with you that bush is a good player even tho i think you were being sarcastic......i wasnt
Hey, I'm just doing the same thing you are doing in here.
CantonLegend 11-18-2009, 01:04 AM If Betts continues to produce the same way he has, I'm sure the coaching staff would want to put the best RB out on the field. However, Portis happens to have a direct line to the ownership and would run his mouth in the local media about it, which I'm sure you can pick up in the few games you've seen.
I don't think there's a fan that will discredit and ignore the accomplishments that Portis has had as a Redskins. However, we're not being narrow-minded like you are by saying that just because he was great before he should be the starter in a year when injuries/age/faulty o-line/not practicing/etc., etc. have caused him to have a subpar first half of the season.
You just like to fuck with people and come up with your ignorant ramblings about how great he was.
If Portis was healthy and in his past form, there wouldn't even be a discussion. But unfortunately for your piss poor argument, he's not.
you're right....hes hurt....which is why hes not playing
however.....i disagree that his affiliation with the owner has anything to do with his playing time and positioning as a starter
it is the coaches call to put the starters on the field......it doesnt matter what the owner says about who he wants to play because it is ultimately the decision of the coach.....zorns job is on the line anyway....the last thing he should be worried about is what the owner has to say about who should start
zorn is taking full advantage of his liberties as a head coach that he still has and one of them is designating starters.....he came in to the team completely unbiased towards which running back should start and selected portis as the feature back.....because he is better.....zorn has no affiliation with portis whatsoever and if portis werent the better of the 2 players, there would be absolutely no reason for zorn to continue to milk that cow
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