Our next coach??


over the mountain
12-04-2009, 02:32 PM
Mike Shanahan / 146 / 98 / .598 / Won two superbowls in '97 and '98 with Elway. With the exception of the 2005 season, Shanahan hasn't won a playoff game in over a decade. In a "what have you done for me lately league," Shanahan hasn't done anything in recent history to justify giving him total control of our franchise.



BHA thats alil misleading on shanahan to try and prove your point.

2 SB wins but that was all elway and davis right? dungys was all manning, belichecks was all brady, shulas was all marino . .

the rate the broncos went to the playoffs under shanahan is alot better than weve done the past decade, with or without exceptions.

go skins!!

BigHairedAristocrat
12-04-2009, 04:13 PM
BHA thats alil misleading on shanahan to try and prove your point.

2 SB wins but that was all elway and davis right? dungys was all manning, belichecks was all brady, shulas was all marino . .

the rate the broncos went to the playoffs under shanahan is alot better than weve done the past decade, with or without exceptions.

go skins!!

Its not misleading at all. Shany had TEN YEARS after Elway to do something. One of those years, the broncos made the AFC title game. 6 of those years the broncos failed to make the playoffs. in he remaining 3, shanahans broncos were one and done in the wild card round. I clearly said that this is a "what have you done for me lately" league and Shany hasnt done anything above mediocre lately. Should he be on Snyder's short list of coaches to interview? absolutely. Would I rather have him than Fassel? its a toss-up. But in no circumstances should Shanahan be at the top of anyone's list. In fact, if I were running the team and was "forced" to chose between giving shanahan total control and pairing up mooch with a proven, competent GM, i'd absolutely go with mooch. no question.

dmek25
12-04-2009, 04:31 PM
Jim Fassel lost to the giants in the super bowl?

celts32
12-04-2009, 04:59 PM
My list would be in this order:

1. Gruden -I know he's out.
2. Cowher- I like him because I think he has a good sense of what it takes to run a good football organization from his time in Pitt.
3. Shanahan- As others have mentioned...I like him as a coach but he seems to have the same free agent mentality that we need to get away from in our front office.
4. Grimm- I like obviously that he's a skin but he's also worked in that Pitt organization and would bring some of that experience. What i don't like about him is that he's never been a head coach and does not have the clout to keep Snyder from meddling. He would need to be in a package with a strong GM that had complete authority.
5. Greg Williams- I am assuming Vinny is gone here. I think he would be in the same situation as Grimm though...he won't get full control so if there is no strong GM in place it could be more of the same.

BigHairedAristocrat
12-04-2009, 06:18 PM
Jim Fassel lost to the giants in the super bowl?

LOL, i'll make an edit.

BigHairedAristocrat
12-04-2009, 06:26 PM
My list would be in this order:

1. Gruden -I know he's out.
2. Cowher- I like him because I think he has a good sense of what it takes to run a good football organization from his time in Pitt.
3. Shanahan- As others have mentioned...I like him as a coach but he seems to have the same free agent mentality that we need to get away from in our front office.
4. Grimm- I like obviously that he's a skin but he's also worked in that Pitt organization and would bring some of that experience. What i don't like about him is that he's never been a head coach and does not have the clout to keep Snyder from meddling. He would need to be in a package with a strong GM that had complete authority.
5. Greg Williams- I am assuming Vinny is gone here. I think he would be in the same situation as Grimm though...he won't get full control so if there is no strong GM in place it could be more of the same.

I like your list and the general order of it. Mine would go Cowher, Gruden, Holmgren, Greg Williams, Mooch, Shanahan, Fassel, Jerry Gray, and The Field (which includes several offensive coordinators out there like Russ Grimm). In the event we went with the field, we would need atleast I'd want atleast proven playcallers on the coaching staff (as opposed to, you know, the zero we had when Zorn was hired).

SFREDSKIN
12-05-2009, 12:23 AM
Surprise, surprise, won't be Holmgren.

Holmgren would like to talk return to Seahawks - NFL - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AjpVTBaLo8B3k82wEQvMVhs5nYcB?slug=ap-seahawks-holmgren&prov=ap&type=lgns)

The Goat
12-05-2009, 01:05 AM
Does anybody else think the GM position is more important for us than HC at this point?

...I don't really know that many GM candidates. I would like to see who you guys think is best for GM?

Eknox
12-05-2009, 02:14 AM
Does anybody else think the GM position is more important for us than HC at this point?

...I don't really know that many GM candidates. I would like to see who you guys think is best for GM?
Yes, I agree the Goat we could do like Atlanta get a great GM and a good coach, and let him put the right talent in place for the coach. I wouldn't mind a turnaround like that.

The Goat
12-05-2009, 02:37 AM
Didn't Cowher once remark if he coached again it would be in Carolina...who btw is primed for a new coach after this season? Not totally sure when/where I read this but it totally is stuck in my mind.

...anyway I think it's absurd to daydream about great coaches coming to Redskins park if Snyder keeps Cerrato on the payroll anywhere and maintains the same incompetent FO. I mean Shanahan is the possible exception cuz that dude loves his money and might take the huge blemish to his resume (working in Snyder's circus) for a gigantic payday.

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