Our next coach??


Beemnseven
12-03-2009, 04:30 PM
It looks like I'm quickly becoming the chairman of the committee to hire Mike Shanahan, so, as such, here's a list of his accomplishments to chew on for those that aren't convinced.

Accomplishments

Posted the most wins in pro football history during a three-year period (46 in 1996–98).
Won the most postseason games in history over a two-year period (seven, 1997–98).
Been undefeated and untied for three consecutive regular seasons (1996–98) at home, just the second team ever to be undefeated and untied at home in three consecutive years. The Miami Dolphins posted three consecutive seasons of untied undefeated home records from 1972 to 1974. Including playoff games, the Dolphins had won 31 consecutive home games from 1971 to 1974. Oddly enough, in 1999 on the opening Monday Night Football game, the Miami Dolphins ended the defending Super Bowl champion Denver Broncos streak with a 38–21 win in Denver.
In 2004, he joined the exclusive club of head coaches to post 100 wins in his first 10 seasons with one club, finishing the campaign and decade tied for fourth on this ultra-impressive list of 12 coaches, six of whom are enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Has the second most victories against the Oakland Raiders with a record of 21–7. Only Marty Schottenheimer has a better W–L record with a 27–6 record against the Raiders.
Joins Vince Lombardi, Don Shula, Chuck Noll, Jimmy Johnson and Bill Belichick as the only six coaches to win back-to-back Super Bowls.
He is the second coach in history to win two Super Bowl titles in his first four years coaching a team (Shula did it first with the Miami Dolphins in 1972 and 1973 and Belichick did it later, winning two Super Bowls in his first four seasons in New England in 2001 and 2003).
Highest winning percentage in Denver history (.646).
Shanahan is among seven coaches in pro football history to post four wins in one postseason along with Tom Flores, Joe Gibbs, Brian Billick, Bill Cowher, Tony Dungy and Tom Coughlin.
The all-time high of 636 points in a season came from the 1994 Super Bowl Champion San Francisco 49ers, for whom Shanahan was the offensive coordinator. This was eclipsed during the 2007 season when the New England Patriots scored 589 points in the regular season and 66 points in the postseason for a total of 655 points.
During his NFL career, Shanahan has been a part of teams that have played in 10 Conference Championship Games, in addition to his six Super Bowl appearances, five with Denver and Super Bowl XXIX with San Francisco.


I know there are skeptics when it comes to Shanahan as a personnel evaluator. Since he basically had control over this area in Denver, though not the actual title of GM, I maintain that his success with the Broncos couldn't have been possible if he's as awful a personnel decision-maker as some seem to believe.

SmootSmack
12-03-2009, 04:32 PM
i thought that shanahan was the gm for awhile with the broncos but it seems a guy named lundquist (sp?) was the gm from 2002 to 2008.

I think it was Sundquist, not Lundquist. But, to my earlier point, he (like Heckert in Philadelphia) was really just the GM in name only.

I mean that's not to discredit Sundquist, who is apparently highly regarded, or the work he put in. Just that Shanahan had final say.

FRPLG
12-03-2009, 04:54 PM
I know there are skeptics when it comes to Shanahan as a personnel evaluator. Since he basically had control over this area in Denver, though not the actual title of GM, I maintain that his success with the Broncos couldn't have been possible if he's as awful a personnel decision-maker as some seem to believe.

Here's what also know. His teams were pretty pedestrian his last few years there when the personnel was his and his only. He won superbowls with a HOF QB he didn't pick and a stud RB. He also had Gary Kubiak and Alex Gibb coaching his offense. On top of that his defenses were decent but not out of this world. I don't think there is a lot on his resume that screams "He is the guy to fix this team". He basically took an already successful team and pushed them over the top for a few years by adding a good RB. Once that formula dried up due to age he didn't duplicate it. It was downhill from there.

BigHairedAristocrat
12-03-2009, 05:16 PM
I think it was Sundquist, not Lundquist. But, to my earlier point, he (like Heckert in Philadelphia) was really just the GM in name only.

I mean that's not to discredit Sundquist, who is apparently highly regarded, or the work he put in. Just that Shanahan had final say.

Well, ultimately, we'd have to know when Shanahan went against Sundquist and how it turned out to to know whether or not Shanahan really messed up by excercising his right of final say. Really, these decisions should all be somewhat collaborative anyways.

Lotus
12-03-2009, 07:51 PM
It looks like I'm quickly becoming the chairman of the committee to hire Mike Shanahan, so, as such, here's a list of his accomplishments to chew on for those that aren't convinced.

Accomplishments

Posted the most wins in pro football history during a three-year period (46 in 1996–98).
Won the most postseason games in history over a two-year period (seven, 1997–98).
Been undefeated and untied for three consecutive regular seasons (1996–98) at home, just the second team ever to be undefeated and untied at home in three consecutive years. The Miami Dolphins posted three consecutive seasons of untied undefeated home records from 1972 to 1974. Including playoff games, the Dolphins had won 31 consecutive home games from 1971 to 1974. Oddly enough, in 1999 on the opening Monday Night Football game, the Miami Dolphins ended the defending Super Bowl champion Denver Broncos streak with a 38–21 win in Denver.
In 2004, he joined the exclusive club of head coaches to post 100 wins in his first 10 seasons with one club, finishing the campaign and decade tied for fourth on this ultra-impressive list of 12 coaches, six of whom are enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Has the second most victories against the Oakland Raiders with a record of 21–7. Only Marty Schottenheimer has a better W–L record with a 27–6 record against the Raiders.
Joins Vince Lombardi, Don Shula, Chuck Noll, Jimmy Johnson and Bill Belichick as the only six coaches to win back-to-back Super Bowls.
He is the second coach in history to win two Super Bowl titles in his first four years coaching a team (Shula did it first with the Miami Dolphins in 1972 and 1973 and Belichick did it later, winning two Super Bowls in his first four seasons in New England in 2001 and 2003).
Highest winning percentage in Denver history (.646).
Shanahan is among seven coaches in pro football history to post four wins in one postseason along with Tom Flores, Joe Gibbs, Brian Billick, Bill Cowher, Tony Dungy and Tom Coughlin.
The all-time high of 636 points in a season came from the 1994 Super Bowl Champion San Francisco 49ers, for whom Shanahan was the offensive coordinator. This was eclipsed during the 2007 season when the New England Patriots scored 589 points in the regular season and 66 points in the postseason for a total of 655 points.
During his NFL career, Shanahan has been a part of teams that have played in 10 Conference Championship Games, in addition to his six Super Bowl appearances, five with Denver and Super Bowl XXIX with San Francisco.


I know there are skeptics when it comes to Shanahan as a personnel evaluator. Since he basically had control over this area in Denver, though not the actual title of GM, I maintain that his success with the Broncos couldn't have been possible if he's as awful a personnel decision-maker as some seem to believe.

Most of those accomplishments were in the '90s and Elway was the QB. Post-Elway his accomplishments are much thinner.

redsk1
12-03-2009, 08:55 PM
For one thing, it wouldn't be a good comparison because Shanahan has had so many more picks than we have.

How about we compare overall records over the last ten years and you get back to me?

The point that he has had alot more picks sais ALOT right there. Oh yeah, the winning thing too.

53Fan
12-03-2009, 09:22 PM
Most of those accomplishments were in the '90s and Elway was the QB. Post-Elway his accomplishments are much thinner.

That's what I always think when I think Shanahan. Gibbs won SB's with 3 different QB's.

diehardskin2982
12-03-2009, 10:19 PM
how many of you believe in a shannahan HC, Sherm Lewis OC combination? In this scenario the deal has already been done and although Mike denied taking the HC job during the season, but he did tell them to hire Lewis as a "consultant" that will convert to OC with him next season.

SmootSmack
12-03-2009, 10:50 PM
how many of you believe in a shannahan HC, Sherm Lewis OC combination? In this scenario the deal has already been done and although Mike denied taking the HC job during the season, but he did tell them to hire Lewis as a "consultant" that will convert to OC with him next season.

Well it was Steve Mariucci that suggested the Lewis hiring

franklinhimself
12-03-2009, 11:11 PM
Call me crazy: I think Zorn should stay HC and be able to draft his own qb like so many other coaches get to do--- the coined term "his guy". If we keep Lewis who has our offense not looking so bad, we've got our 3rd year in the same system, same coach, more developed players (davis, kelly, thomas, rhinehart). We draft qb and o line, and i feel more confident in that than starting fresh again. we should let zorn continue to build his staff.

im basically saying this because I don't like shanahan. he only accomplished what he did because of davis and elway. Broncos were good at best in his tenure otherwise.

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