Our next coach??


53Fan
11-30-2009, 11:09 PM
The Patriots don't officially have an offensive coordinator now I don't think. Weis has been rumored as a candidate there. Also, Cleveland, St. Louis, and I think Chicago maybe have been mentioned as well. Package deal with Jimmy Clausen perhaps?

Perhaps...but unless Weis is going to block for him, there will be another JC in Washington running for his life. :)

SmootSmack
11-30-2009, 11:30 PM
watching these saints play on monday night, I am soooooo mad at Snyder for letting Greg Williams leave! That is our HC roaming the Saints sideline

I like to think I'm a pretty decent moderator, as are the other mods on this site. We do our jobs to the best of our abilities, offer up some different looks and overall keep things in check.

But it doesn't even remotely compare to what Matty does as the site administrator.

It's possible Williams is just a good coordinator

SmootSmack
11-30-2009, 11:31 PM
A lot of NFL jobs could be available, there are rumors now that the Packers might let McCarthy go

diehardskin2982
11-30-2009, 11:42 PM
I hear ya, but I am one of those that believe that Gibbs mentored Williams to be the HC. When Taylor died the players seemed to be bonded to Williams, especially when he did the 10 players on the field thing and his use of comcast to motivate his players.
Snyder really blew it as a owner on that one.

mlmdub130
12-01-2009, 12:10 AM
I hear ya, but I am one of those that believe that Gibbs mentored Williams to be the HC. When Taylor died the players seemed to be bonded to Williams, especially when he did the 10 players on the field thing and his use of comcast to motivate his players.
Snyder really blew it as a owner on that one.

yup, yup

(had to put it twice minimum 4 letter post)

BigHairedAristocrat
12-01-2009, 11:56 AM
I hear ya, but I am one of those that believe that Gibbs mentored Williams to be the HC. When Taylor died the players seemed to be bonded to Williams, especially when he did the 10 players on the field thing and his use of comcast to motivate his players.
Snyder really blew it as a owner on that one.

If I remember correctly, Gibbs didn't endorse Williams to Snyder and thats probably why Snyder chose to go in a different direction - because of Gibbs' advice. Williams was a failure in Buffalo as a HC and revealed alot about his character by only playing 10 men on the field in the 1st game after ST died and NOT telling his boss - Joe Gibbs - about it in advance.

Put yourself in Gibbs' and Snyder's shoes - why on earth would you promote someone who was so blatantly insubordinate? How could you trust someone like that to continue in their current role, let alone give them more authority? The answer is simple - you wouldn't. I'm sure that wasn't the only factor that played into the decision, but i'm sure it contributed to it.

It would be hard to argue that this team would be worse off with Williams - or anyone else that was available to us after Gibbs retired - than it has been under Zorn, but Williams certainly wouldn't have been the long-term answer here. And our defense has actually improved under Blache. I'm sorry, but Williams would not have been a good HC here and he'll never be a good HC anywhere in the league. Some guys are just not cut out for HC jobs.

SmootSmack
12-01-2009, 12:33 PM
Gibbs thought Williams would be a fine candidate, but never flat out told Snyder "This is the guy you have to hire." I personally think Williams should be afforded a second chance to be a head coach (as I understand it, there were some significant off the field issues in Buffalo but if you give players second chances...), and it probably should have been here. I don't know that he'd be a good head coach, which requires a lot more than being a coordinator.

Still, Williams wouldn't have solved our problem of offensive playcalling and execution. Some reports have said he would have kept Al Saunders, but I've heard others say he wanted to go in a different direction because he didn't feel like Saunders' style of offense would help his defense out.

Anyway, at the end of the day what ultimately did in Williams was that Snyder made the decision to entrust all football authority to Vinny Cerrato. And Cerrato didn't want Williams and Williams didn't want to report to Cerrato.

BigHairedAristocrat
12-01-2009, 01:02 PM
Gibbs thought Williams would be a fine candidate, but never flat out told Snyder "This is the guy you have to hire." I personally think Williams should be afforded a second chance to be a head coach (as I understand it, there were some significant off the field issues in Buffalo but if you give players second chances...), and it probably should have been here. I don't know that he'd be a good head coach, which requires a lot more than being a coordinator.

Still, Williams wouldn't have solved our problem of offensive playcalling and execution. Some reports have said he would have kept Al Saunders, but I've heard others say he wanted to go in a different direction because he didn't feel like Saunders' style of offense would help his defense out.

Anyway, at the end of the day what ultimately did in Williams was that Snyder made the decision to entrust all football authority to Vinny Cerrato. And Cerrato didn't want Williams and Williams didn't want to report to Cerrato.

i've also read that Williams didn't want Campbell, whom he viewed as a "coach killer." I give Williams credit for that. He was on the money, there.

Ruhskins
12-01-2009, 01:05 PM
i've also read that Williams didn't want Campbell, whom he viewed as a "coach killer." I give Williams credit for that. He was on the money, there.

I think Vinny is more of a coach killer right now than Campbell.

BigHairedAristocrat
12-01-2009, 01:10 PM
I think Vinny is more of a coach killer right now than Campbell.

in that sense, Williams was right on both points.

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