SouperMeister
11-08-2009, 09:14 AM
I don't mind Snyder talking with players, but if he wants to ask anyone on our team an opinion on the team's direction, I'm much rather have him doing 30 minute sitdowns with guys like London Fletcher and Chris Samuels. Not a guy who's been a Redskin for all of 7 games.
Albert Haynesworth is a beast who knows what to do on the field, but he's no consigliere or liasion. I wouldn't look to Al as a guy who can be the barometer of this team.Agreed. Perhaps Snyder's motivation to approach AH was that he played for a winner as recently as last season, and Snyder wanted to know what's missing from this team playing at that level. I just hope that Haynesworth gave an honest assessment of the OL deficiencies.
70Chip
11-08-2009, 09:54 AM
He does this all the time. He buddies up to the players which completely undermines the abilty of the coach to impose any kind of discipline.
Skinny Tee
11-08-2009, 12:06 PM
He does this all the time. He buddies up to the players which completely undermines the abilty of the coach to impose any kind of discipline.
Yeah...for being such a business man he certainly shows that he cares little about the heirarchy of authority.
It may sound frivoluous but it does have a place in well run organizations. I'm not saying that Snyder can't speak with players at all but the topics they're speaking about should be off limits under these circumstances.
Also any NFL player has biased interests. Isn't this league known for being run like 'a business' and everyone looking out for themselves? Haynesworth's business is himself and who's to say that he isn't giving advice that caters to his career.
Simple point being...Snyder needs to be speaking with someone who has experience and solely the Redskins interest at heart.
Ruhskins
11-08-2009, 12:08 PM
Well Haynesworth was in a successful winning playoff team last year. LOL.
Seriously, this really doesn't matter. If he speaks to players, oh well.
Chico23231
11-08-2009, 12:17 PM
Typically the owner would be asking these questions to the GM or coach. This is another example of how the lines of communication are screwed up in the organization right now.
Exactly, DS is a truely a loser if expects to get answers from players. My only question for DS, is why not hire a real GM?
cdskins26
11-08-2009, 12:24 PM
Nothing wrong with him consulting with haynesworth. He hasnt been the same player this year, similar to jason taylor last year, archuleta 3 years ago, etc. Our defensive free agents recently have not lived up to expectation, the only ones i can think of who have are london fletcher and maybe deangelo hall.
SBXVII
11-08-2009, 12:40 PM
Maybe DS was meeting with AH to learn about the Titans coach who is supposed to be let go after the season. Maybe DS was wondering if he could work with him again? No one knows what the meeting was about.
warpaint
11-08-2009, 12:46 PM
What does Snyder get out of this. In the article AH says Snyder is just a fan that wants to win. He should act more like an owner than a fan. He just doesnt seem to realize how much damage he is doing by not hiring the right personel. But on asking AH about what he needs to do to win, I dont see anything wrong with that if he is asking the right questions. Maybe if he opens his eyes and stops budding up to the players so much we might get some type chain of command.
Skinny Tee
11-08-2009, 12:51 PM
Well Haynesworth was in a successful winning playoff team last year. LOL.
Seriously, this really doesn't matter. If he speaks to players, oh well.
Well, if people want to gain insight into what to change in this organization, this is a great example.
Snyder is clearly showing he has no clue with what to do and he is seeking advice from the likes of players who all have ZERO coaching or general managing experience. Remember players usually start off their coaches careers after their playing careers. They don't make an impact in coaching ranks until they've gained some applicable experience a la Mike Singletary.
If you're quickly dismissing this as just a conversation then you're failing to see the overall answer to the question "What is wrong with the Redskins"...simple answer: Dan Snyder doing more than he needs to as owner.
Just hire an NFL esteemed GM and give him FULL AUTHORITY AND ACCOUNTABILTY and this fiasco is over.
Skinny Tee
11-08-2009, 01:00 PM
Maybe DS was meeting with AH to learn about the Titans coach who is supposed to be let go after the season. Maybe DS was wondering if he could work with him again? No one knows what the meeting was about.
Per the article:
"They're usually 15-, 20-, even 30-minute conversations sometimes, depends on what the day is looking like. You know, he's just a big fan. He's a guy who will do anything to get the right players and to win. That's what he wants to do, he wants to win.
"Most of all our conversations start out, like 'How can we win? Can we win this week? What do you think?' and things like that."
Just as you are saying we can't guess at what they are talking about, we know factually what they are talking about. He clearly says that they are speaking about potential solutions to fixing the Redskins problems. That topic is stated in this article. Any other topic of conversation is not listed so can not be factually discussed.
This was a factual conversation that took place between Snyder and Haynesworth, per Haynesworth's account.
That can be discussed as fact. Any other side conversations that people are bringing up as potentially being discussed is not factual and is subject to speculation.
This article though clearly states that they've previously and continually discuss the problems of the Redskins and potential solutions.