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That Guy
10-18-2004, 01:22 PM
how ironic defensewins, you say the long ball won't solve our problems and then point to the vikings running game... which is just about the greatest proof that long balls would solve all our problems...

their running game is good cause their QB can make the 40-50 yard passes on a regular basis, so you can't stack the line...

SkinsRock
10-18-2004, 01:35 PM
The poll question is who we think should start, so it's Ramsey...no question. But, Gibbs will not make the switch, especially after a win, no matter how bad Brunell played. Portis and the D basically saved Brunell's job for him.
The point is not that everyone thinks that Ramsey is that much better, but the fact that he can't be much worse. Ramsey has had what, less than 1 half of action, and was playing from behind trying to create something, and he failed. So what? Brunell had a great half against Dallas, but it wasn't quite good enough was it? Nope. One of the big things about Brunell was supposed to be his accuracy, but it has been practically non-existant. Let Ramsey practice will the 1st team and play, and we'll see what happens. That's all we ask. Brunell has been personally responsible for 4 scores by the opposing defense, two of which we overcame (thanks to the D), and two we didn't. All games have been won or lost by a TD or less, so that is the difference of 2-4 and 4-2. Lets just see what the "future of the Redskins" can do...

Gmanc711
10-18-2004, 01:45 PM
Heres the difference, even if Ramsey is just as bad as Brunell, at least hes trying to build somthing and gain experiance. Brunell is going no where in his career, he had a tremendous career. Hell he proboly falls into the second catagory of the best qbs ever to play the game ( the first catagory are your Montanas, Elways and Marinos). The fact is, his career is just about over. Putting Ramsey in there at least gains him some experiance so he can hopefully lead this team next year. If he goes in and lays an egg, at least it tells us we have to go in a different direction @ QB. I do think Ramsey will be successful in the NFL, hopefully with the Washington Redskins!

Defensewins
10-18-2004, 02:01 PM
how ironic defensewins, you say the long ball won't solve our problems and then point to the vikings running game... which is just about the greatest proof that long balls would solve all our problems...

their running game is good cause their QB can make the 40-50 yard passes on a regular basis, so you can't stack the line...

That Guy,
Re-read my post, I said 'the long ball will help, but will not solve ALL of our offensive problems'.
The Vikings offensive line is protecting Culpepper, he has time to step up and throw. Also if you watched the Vikings game, you would have seen even in short yardage situations, the Seahawks "stacked the line" and played short yardage defense (8-9 men in the box) the Vikings offensive line still pushed the seahawk defense back and got first downs. The Viking line is big and impressive.
Our offensive line is not impressive at this point. They are not giving our QB's time and they are not getting done in short yardage this year.
Thats all. The long ball is not the only thing wrong with our offense. While it will help in regular offense sitations, it will not help in goal line and short yard, where we have been also seriously lacking.

JWsleep
10-18-2004, 02:25 PM
The long ball is mising from our offense. But that isn't the killer, as far as I'm concerned. What' missing is the 12-15 yard out and the 12-15 yard curl/middle. We have no IN BETWEEN passing game either, and that is a killer. And that is beacues either Brunnell lacks the armstrength to throw this or lacks the accuracy or reads to hit it. And he doesn't need all day to throw this pass. He just doesn't, or very rarely.

I doub't very very much that Gibbs will take our advice, but it's time to go with Ramsey, and to let him get used to this offense. Brunnell led the offense to 13 points and gave up 7 on an INT. Ramsey can do that. ANd maybe he can do better. It's time!

Duffman003
10-18-2004, 03:47 PM
last year patrick got sacked a lot because of spurrier's scheme, he had maybe 2.5 seconds or something rediculous in the pocket. Burnell is having like 5 or even 6 seconds in the pocket. and has a longer time of getting rid of the ball too. The only thing I believe Burnell has on Ramsey is experience so he can read defenses better, but if Ramsey has the time he will have the ability to break down defenses as well.

Riggo44
10-18-2004, 04:19 PM
All I want is a pass over 30 yrds! Wich Mark can't seem to do.
I hope we put Ramsey in.

4TH RING
10-18-2004, 05:29 PM
I've still never heard anyone defend Hasselbeck's 0.00 rating in a game last year.

If Hasselbeck gets in the season is really over.Yeah I believe that was the dallas game. It's not a very good thing to have your go to reciever play for the other team. (newman career high 3 ints)

:laughing-

That Guy
10-18-2004, 05:52 PM
don't get me wrong, ramsey telegraphs plays, he's slower (but can run), and he doesn't seem as comfortable in the pocket (i wonder why...), isn't super awesome at reading defenses, and holds on trying to make a play... BUT he can throw deep, he can throw hard, and he can hit his targets...

brunell sucks in a lot more ways... either way, i wish we had big ben right now ;) but since we don't i'd prefer ramsey.

Brute44
10-19-2004, 02:55 AM
don't get me wrong, ramsey telegraphs plays, he's slower (but can run), and he doesn't seem as comfortable in the pocket (i wonder why...), isn't super awesome at reading defenses, and holds on trying to make a play... BUT he can throw deep, he can throw hard, and he can hit his targets...

brunell sucks in a lot more ways... either way, i wish we had big ben right now ;) but since we don't i'd prefer ramsey.


Sure Ramsey can throw deep and hard and long, thats sounds so delicious doesn't it That Guy. In reality Brunell has thrown 3 INT's in 6 games and Ramsey threw 3 INT's in a half of play. Ramsey throws deep but unfortunately it's to the wrong colored jersey.;)

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