Return of Joe Gibbs - - Update

Fuck it who cares!

Gibbs unquestionably left the team in better shape, considering what he had to work with. The problems began in the 2008 draft when you draft 2 under performing WR and a below-average TE in high rounds. Had they picked OL we would not be in this situation because they would have had plenty of playing time as fast as our line gets injured. Where is Pete Kendall? What about Fabini? There are a number of reliable back ups out there who could do a better job than Mike Williams or Will Montgomery. Just another example of the front office FAILING! At least when Joe Gibbs was here he could take an average group and make them competitive, now we have nothing.


I agree. Although at the time we were screaming for the 'skins to draft some wide receivers to push Santana Moss and Randel El. Unfortunately so far, we haven't seen this from Malcom Kelly, but Thomas appears to be doing a little more this year than last year (which isn't saying much.) But yes, other than the Derrick Dockery signing (which wasn't a big time signing) we haven't really addressed the offensive line like we should have. Of course, drafting players is a fine art. You have to balance needs verses drafting the best players who are available when your team is on the clock. This is where trading up or down becomes mightily important in order to draft the best players for your areas of need.

They're all at fault. Gibbs traded away picks for Brunell when he was going to be cut. We gave up an extra number one to pick Campbell. I could go on and on. Some of what went on here is on Gibbs and we'd be foolish to think otherwise.

Gibbs did hinder our future by drafting Carlos Rodgers over Aaron Rogers IMO.

Gibbs did hinder our future by drafting Carlos Rodgers over Aaron Rogers IMO.

you could also throw both of dallas' d ends in that group spears and ware, and roddy white was drafted right after campbell too, regardless of who was in charge our drafting over the past 10 years has been pretty terrible we need a reallygood talent evaluator, someone who will actually do that instead of hosting radio shows and playing racquetball

Gibbs did hinder our future by drafting Carlos Rodgers over Aaron Rogers IMO.

Hindsight is 20/20. Do we even know if it was possible for us to get Aaron Rogers at the time and still be able to get a high draft pick CB?

Hindsight is 20/20. Do we even know if it was possible for us to get Aaron Rogers at the time and still be able to get a high draft pick CB?

Before drafting Rogers our defense was already one of the best in the NFL. We didn't really need a CB, all we had to do was resign Smoot and draft A. Rogers. Rogers was projected to be a top 10 pick, he would of been perfect in our offense. If A. Rogers was our QB for the last 2 years, not doubt we would of been serious contenders in the NFC.

Joe Gibbs cannot escape blame for some idiotic personnel moves when he was Team President. For anyone to imply that everything he did was golden is denying reality.

Joe Gibbs cannot escape blame for some idiotic personnel moves when he was Team President. For anyone to imply that everything he did was golden is denying reality.

I don't think anyone is implying that. What Gibbs did is bring back is winning and playoffs back to Washington. He brought back pride in being a Redskin. That is what makes him golden.
Winning football games is what it is all about.
Gibbs is gone and Snyderatto has been calling the shots the last two years and we are back to being a terrible team. So that ultimate blame goes to Snyderatto, if you believe otherwise you are denying reality.

I don't think anyone is implying that. What Gibbs did is bring back is winning and playoffs back to Washington. He brought back pride in being a Redskin. That is what makes him golden.
Winning football games is what it is all about.
Gibbs is gone and Snyderatto has been calling the shots the last two years and we are back to being a terrible team. So that ultimate blame goes to Snyderatto, if you believe otherwise you are denying reality.

I beg to differ. Gibbs was here for four years and most definitely had say in personnel decisions and the direction of the organization. As far as I'm concerned, he's just as complicit as Snyderatto. That too is reality.

I don't think anyone is implying that. What Gibbs did is bring back is winning and playoffs back to Washington. He brought back pride in being a Redskin. That is what makes him golden.
Winning football games is what it is all about.
Gibbs is gone and Snyderatto has been calling the shots the last two years and we are back to being a terrible team. So that ultimate blame goes to Snyderatto, if you believe otherwise you are denying reality.

I want to add one more thing. Sometimes I get the impression that Skins fans are more concerned about style points than actually winning. Like you know, if Joe Gibbs comes back and we're still losers but he restores this sense of "pride", it somehow makes it all better. Hey we suck, but at least Gibbs is here. I couldn't care less who's here, I just want this team to win and I'm not convinced that Gibbs wouldn't end up being more of an impediment than actually moving the ball forward in a meaningful way.

I can tell you this, if Gibbs comes back, in any capacity, the pressure will be unbelievably high. The fans will expect instant results. No five or three year plan to right the ship. That's the downside to bringing Gibbs back, in my opinion.