KLHJ2
11-06-2009, 11:29 AM
This whole thing is going to end up being a big distraction for the Skins. They either need to bring him back or publicly put it to rest.
Nah, the whole thing is just a distraction to us.
skinsfan69
11-06-2009, 11:32 AM
I don't know why it is that every time the subject of Joe Gibbs being in a position of team president comes up, people automatically assume that means the same thing as GM.
And furthermore, why is it that people say "let's not look to the past but the future" and then say they'd take Bill Parcells as team president? It's the same difference. If Gibbs could build a successful racing team, surely he can build a successful football franchise...a sport he has been successful with in the past.
Gibbs is an excellent motivator and organizer. That is exactly what we need in a Team President. If there is someone else better than Gibbs for that position, then by all means, let's grab 'em up before someone else gets him. But, I'd put my full confidence in JG to put the right people in the right positions (GM & Head coach) than I would Vinny Cerrato and Dan Snyder.
And I really don't see how people can blame Gibbs for the current state of the Redskins. That is ridiculous! When Gibbs left, the team was a playoff team. Maybe not as dominate team as he had in the 80's, but it was the most stable version of the Redskins that we have had since Gibbs 1. I realize that's just opinions, but I'm all for Joe Gibbs being a team president and being the one responsible for hiring a good GM and a good head coach. Who else do you know that Daniel Snyder would give up the reigns for? Exactly...nobody!
Sorry but the team was not really in that good of shape. Barely getting to the playoffs and losing in the first round doesn't do it for me. Let's face it, that was a miracle run and the team probably over achieved a bit. Getting a Dallas team that laid down the last game of the year helped as well. And he is part to blame for trading away draft picks and leaving the team w/out any quality depth. He, Vinny and Dan are all to blame.
The team was much better off when Gibbs left than it is now, that's all I know. You can't deny the team has spun downward since he left.
Monkeydad
11-06-2009, 11:52 AM
The team was much better off when Gibbs left than it is now, that's all I know. You can't deny the team has spun downward since he left.
We've seen this happen TWICE also.
12thMan
11-06-2009, 12:10 PM
I've yet to hear a good reason as to why bring Gibbs back. Okay he's not going to be GM, fine. But he's going to be president or something or other and help Danny pick a GM a good coach.
It's like this team is constantly trying to force square pegs into round circles and say, there we figured out it now.
I think plenty of good reasons have been tossed out there as to why Gibbs coming back is a good idea, you just don't agree.
freddyg12
11-06-2009, 12:14 PM
Maybe Gibbs is the only guy that can either convince the Danny to get rid of Vinny & his current FO structure, or do it himself as team pres. Either way, I can't see that Danny talking to Gibbs can do anything worse to the state of this team. Distractions don't matter much when the team is already sinking fast.
Both danny & Gibbs are smart men that have learned some things in their time since 04. The Danny sees that he's got to make some major changes hopefully. Gibbs learned how today's nfl runs in his 4 years under the danny.
Having stepped away from it he is in a unique position to critique the organization and consult on how to repair it. My only fear in all this is that Gibbs comes back in some capacity only to eventually be thrown to the wolves in a no win situation. Remember, Sherm Lewis was hired as a "consultant" but is now calling plays.
freddyg12
11-06-2009, 12:20 PM
I've yet to hear a good reason as to why bring Gibbs back. Okay he's not going to be GM, fine. But he's going to be president or something or other and help Danny pick a GM a good coach.
It's like this team is constantly trying to force square pegs into round circles and say, there we figured out it now.
I'll try to give you just that; "a good reason." How about this; Gibbs is THE ONLY guy that Snyder will objectively listen to & heed his advice. I'm not saying that's a fact, but it may be.
celts32
11-06-2009, 12:23 PM
Thanks SC! I love Coach Joe and think he could help but I am not sure I want him involved in this mess anymore. I was happy that he was able to get out with his legacy and reputation intact and I would like to keep it that way.
skinsfan69
11-06-2009, 12:26 PM
The team was much better off when Gibbs left than it is now, that's all I know. You can't deny the team has spun downward since he left.
That's debatable. It's not MUCH better off.