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SkinFanatic 11-04-2009, 07:19 AM I was saying in one of the other threads here that I expected he'd break his media silence soon. But this "appology" is far short of what I expected. The fact that he really said nothing but "we're sorry" makes me think that he hasn't made any decisions on what to do yet. That is disturbing. I'm sure everyone is under tremendous pressure at Redskins Park right now. But DS needs to take more of the blame personally and needs to start making tough and drastic decisions now. We're not in the middle of a "disappointing season", we're in the middle of a disaster.
ashvirtually 11-04-2009, 07:31 AM Its funny how many people want DS to say he failed more then anything else. Why? I think the product on the field spells a pretty loud FAILED all by it self. Then they wany Vinny fired in the middle of the season. Why? So we start winning and make the playoffs? It just does not make any sense to start throwing people under the bus im the middle of the season. Lets finish out the year and then start cleaning house. The only way I'd say fire VC right now would be because you have a new GM that can come in and start to look things over.Uh huh, whatever, tell that to Jim Zorn.
This is a freak show that hasn't made sense since Gibbs 2.0 ended, the middle of THIS season is just putting it all on display.
FWIW I don't give a shit about what Snyder says at this pont.
CrustyRedskin 11-04-2009, 08:08 AM If he makes preseason tix free again, I'll accept his apology. I miss Jack Kent Cooke.
yep, i miss a lot of things.
Ruhskins 11-04-2009, 08:41 AM Uh huh, whatever, tell that to Jim Zorn.
This is a freak show that hasn't made sense since Gibbs 2.0 ended, the middle of THIS season is just putting it all on display.
FWIW I don't give a shit about what Snyder says at this pont.
Actually Gibbs 2.0 ending so suddenly partly contributed to this mess. Not to mention the multiple picks we lost through trades during this time.
That being said, I really don't care much for his apology but hey at least he's saying something. And I'm ok with things being cleaned out at the end of the season.
SouperMeister 11-04-2009, 08:54 AM I don't need an apology. An admission that the FO philosophy has been the wrong way to create a consistent winner would be much better, but I won't hold my breath waiting for that.
More importantly, the firing of Cerrato followed by the hiring of a legitimate GM with final say on personnel matters, with a focus on building quality, inexpensive depth through the draft would be much more substantive. I keep going back to two teams - New England and Philly. Both stockpile draft picks and have a deep pool of capable talent in every unit. They typically make opportunistic FA signings of proven vets, without throwing their future cap out of whack.
SouperMeister 11-04-2009, 09:03 AM Actually Gibbs 2.0 ending so suddenly partly contributed to this mess. Not to mention the multiple picks we lost through trades during this time.
That being said, I really don't care much for his apology but hey at least he's saying something. And I'm ok with things being cleaned out at the end of the season.And Gibbs should not be let off the hook for those trades - he had final say. A 3 and a 4 for Brandon Lloyd? Sure, why not, and while we're at it, tear up the last year of his contract and hand him $10M guaranteed. Another 3 and a 4 for Duckett? Absolutely, we prefer vets over draft picks!!! And don't forget letting Ryan Clark walk for peanuts compared to the record setting deal we gave Adam Archuleta on Gibbs watch - the worst FA signing in our history, and one of the worst ever for the entire NFL. Only Gibbs's ability as a leader on the sideline allowed him to overcome his spotty record in the FO. To me, Gibbs 2.0 had some moments, but ultimately was unfulfilling.
freddyg12 11-04-2009, 09:05 AM I don't need an apology. An admission that the FO philosophy has been the wrong way to create a consistent winner would be much better, but I won't hold my breath waiting for that.
More importantly, the firing of Cerrato followed by the hiring of a legitimate GM with final say on personnel matters, with a focus on building quality, inexpensive depth through the draft would be much more substantive. I keep going back to two teams - New England and Philly. Both stockpile draft picks and have a deep pool of capable talent in every unit. They typically make opportunistic FA signings of proven vets, without throwing their future cap out of whack.
I'm with ya there. I was one of those that said Snyder should be more visible at times, so I respect & appreciate his apology.
Is it enough? Of course not, but it's like any apology, it's a start.
ashvirtually 11-04-2009, 09:15 AM Actually Gibbs 2.0 ending so suddenly partly contributed to this mess. Not to mention the multiple picks we lost through trades during this time.
That being said, I really don't care much for his apology but hey at least he's saying something. And I'm ok with things being cleaned out at the end of the season.Yeah, I agree with that; indeed, I think that was the prmary catalyst for this horror show going on with my beloved 'Skins right now, because for all his catch-as-catch-can decisions inre: the roster, Gibbs could get the team to at least play with some heart.
All I can add is that while I was and still am upset about hm leaving before his time because of the effect it had on the organization, I don't hold it against him. I think he took ST's death really hard and that coupled with his grandson's illness was just too much. IMO he had earned it.
But to excaberate the problem, Snyder and Vinny destroyed any continuity that could have been salvaged! Letting D. Williams go, not addressing the O-Line issues that have been apparent since 2005 (that one is on Gbbs, too), changing the entire offensive scheme, etc. - they took away a lot of stability that could have been salvaged when he decided to go.
I hope that as soon as this horrid season ends Snyder takes the right actions and let them speak for themselves. While I don't give jack about what he says, I take this break from his tradition of not speaking to the press during the season as a positive sign...
SBXVII 11-04-2009, 09:35 AM You guys sound like a bunch of little girls who got their feelings hurt when the other little girls called them names. Now you want an apology and for them to tell mommy what they said so mommy can give you all a big hugh and make you feel better.
I know I don't want to be left out. Whatever a "big hugh" is? Is it free? If it's free I'll take two. ;)
SBXVII 11-04-2009, 09:50 AM don't you mean that's what zorn is for, and as for all the "we" talk it's just old danny showing his style of leadership and what this team needs and lacks acountability, and until we have that from top to bottom we aren't going anywhere and as much as we all would love to think this is rock bottom hold on to your seats cause you ain't seen nothing yet, just wait til dec 6 that's gonna be ugly
If he was smart he would follow the Presidents Rule of Thumb.....as I do...
1) Nixon: "I'm not a Cooke."
2) Clinton: Flat out deny, "I did not hire Vinny Cerrato."
When the public starts clammering...
3) Bush SR: "Read my lips, I did not hire Vinny Cerrato."
When evidence is mounting that you are lying....
4) Reagan: "I don't recall hiring Vinny Cerrato."
When it's blatently obvious...
5) Clinton: "Mistakes were made in hiring Cerrato."
6) Bush JR: "I'm going to fixidate this here clusterphobia."
I hope this helps all of you....I know I apply these tried and true Presidental statements to everything if it's a disaster. I hope it helps you as well.....;)
Edit: I'm sorry I forgot the last one, offer food cause everyone likes food..
7) Carter: "Would you like a peanut?"
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