budw38
11-03-2009, 07:49 PM
Maybe they prefer Marxism? Could be that Capitalism just isn't cutting it anymore?
I don't believe that . Nothing works all the time . Capitalism gives every man and women an opportunity to work , keep the money they earn and save , invest , spend or give as they see fit . We could say Marxism/Comm. ect do not work , USSR , Romania ect. I'am not against some social programs that help those he NEED help , I just want us all to earn what we want . Very few Americans leave for greener pastures , but millions have left there countries , homes and families to seek a better life in our capitalist " free " country .... correct ? Hey Saden , congrads on the wedding young man :)
Trample the Elderly
11-03-2009, 07:55 PM
Maybe they prefer Marxism? Could be that Capitalism just isn't cutting it anymore?
The difference between the two is that Capitalism can't be eliminated. There is capitalism even under Marxism. Unless you want to be a bum, and mooch off of society, you have to exchange goods and services.
I don't think the Chinese would agree with you Saden. They've outlawed Marxist Communism and injected Capitalist / Socialism. They went from being poor to a thriving economy in about 20 years.
saden1
11-03-2009, 08:34 PM
I'm being cheeky but I'm not sure budw38 is when he asks the question:
I doubt I will ever understand why so many Americans want to tear down what has worked so well for millions ... for some form/s of Marxism.
dmek25
11-03-2009, 10:47 PM
i have said this before. but... how can anyone take the comedian Beck seriously?
budw38
11-03-2009, 11:43 PM
i have said this before. but... how can anyone take the comedian Beck seriously? How can you dismiss people saying these things in there own words ?? These are The administration officials in there own words " we < the white house > , have the right to dismantle capitalism " , we can and should " dismantle the press , like Fox news " and that Mao Tse Tung is a great philosopher ... he killed 50 million people ? Watch the video , Obama said on the campaign " judge me by who I surround myself with " .
Trample the Elderly
11-04-2009, 12:07 AM
i have said this before. but... how can anyone take the comedian Beck seriously?
You're not worth listening to, that's why. Beck was a disk jockey not a comedian. Al Franken was a comedy writer.
How can you dismiss people saying these things in there own words ?? These are The administration officials in there own words " we < the white house > , have the right to dismantle capitalism " , we can and should " dismantle the press , like Fox news " and that Mao Tse Tung is a great philosopher ... he killed 50 million people ? Watch the video , Obama said on the campaign " judge me by who I surround myself with " .
You are a serious spacebar advocate eh?
joethiesmanfan
11-04-2009, 09:09 AM
I mean, I see what some people are saying. But Capitalism as we know it is not what made America successful, slavery did. We "adjusted" the capitlaist model so it would be sucessful here. If you do not have to pay your workers then that is not capitalism that is something else. So capiltalism is not what this country was built on. You have to be careful here, you can't just follow blind rhetoric. You could misjudge the future by revising the past. This country has yet to prove it can suceed whithout an under class of citizens who have been disenfrachised. I couldn't imagine living in the Jim Crow South paying taxes and not receiving services like police protection. My taxes paying for the white school children to recieve modern text books and my children learning form 20 year old text books.
firstdown
11-04-2009, 11:12 AM
I mean, I see what some people are saying. But Capitalism as we know it is not what made America successful, slavery did. We "adjusted" the capitlaist model so it would be sucessful here. If you do not have to pay your workers then that is not capitalism that is something else. So capiltalism is not what this country was built on. You have to be careful here, you can't just follow blind rhetoric. You could misjudge the future by revising the past. This country has yet to prove it can suceed whithout an under class of citizens who have been disenfrachised. I couldn't imagine living in the Jim Crow South paying taxes and not receiving services like police protection. My taxes paying for the white school children to recieve modern text books and my children learning form 20 year old text books.
So what year are living in?
724Skinsfan
11-04-2009, 11:51 AM
I mean, I see what some people are saying. But Capitalism as we know it is not what made America successful, slavery did.
So you're saying slavery had more to do with America's economic success than the Industrial Revolution?