Browns Reportedly Fire GM George Kokinis

I would be willing to bet that Mangini is next. Looks like Lerner is feeling the heat from the fans and is AT LEAST doing something about it. But one of the reasons they suck is they don't have an NFL QB and they got rid of their two best offensive players. I don't think much of Brady Quinn but they've got to make a switch. Anderson is just awful.

Put Quinn with on a different team with a good QB coach and you'll see the difference. He actually looked semi decent last year.

Snyder should get one of Lerner's Balls and do the same thing to Vinny, it's way overdue.

I agree, but I don't think it will be done until offseason. We've got no shot of salvaging this year, and there is only so much you can do with a roster in the middle of the season. Our biggest problems can't be solved with a few tweaks here and there. We need massive overhaul.

Which brings me back to Kokinis. I'd like to hear what he did that was so wrong. Maybe he's just the latest pariah in Lerner's sights. What does Lerner think this will accomplish?

Some folks just can't work together. Doesn't mean either of them are bad people, but if Kokinis has been doing it for 13 years he won't be unemployed for long.

I agree, but I don't think it will be done until offseason. We've got no shot of salvaging this year, and there is only so much you can do with a roster in the middle of the season. Our biggest problems can't be solved with a few tweaks here and there. We need massive overhaul.

Which brings me back to Kokinis. I'd like to hear what he did that was so wrong. Maybe he's just the latest pariah in Lerner's sights. What does Lerner think this will accomplish?

Here's some more on the story

Cleveland Browns GM George Kokinis out; head coach Eric Mangini stays - ESPN (http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4616312)

Pretty interesting stuff that's going on with the Browns. Fans upset, front office turmoil, the impact Quinn's contract status (gets paid extra for a certain amount of snaps) seems to be having on his playing time-though Mangini denies it...it's an interesting topic Scud. Just saying

Here's some more on the story

Cleveland Browns GM George Kokinis out; head coach Eric Mangini stays - ESPN (http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4616312)

Pretty interesting stuff that's going on with the Browns. Fans upset, front office turmoil, the impact Quinn's contract status (gets paid extra for a certain amount of snaps) seems to be having on his playing time-though Mangini denies it...it's an interesting topic Scud. Just saying

Haha. Reading you (and the subject matter) loud and clear.

Here's some more on the story

Cleveland Browns GM George Kokinis out; head coach Eric Mangini stays - ESPN (http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4616312)

Pretty interesting stuff that's going on with the Browns. Fans upset, front office turmoil, the impact Quinn's contract status (gets paid extra for a certain amount of snaps) seems to be having on his playing time-though Mangini denies it...it's an interesting topic Scud. Just saying

what a total mess. almost as worse as what's going on here. at least learner isn't bringing in consultants to call plays and clev's offense is worse than ours.

Marty would be a great coach for Cleveland. I didn't like him as a coach here...He's the one who tried to tell Darrell Green how to play cornerback.

Whether you like Marty or not, you cant deny what he did with the teams he coached.
Id take him back in a heartbeat.

All I want to know is is he a good fit --capable fit-- for the Skins?

Face it, anybody is better than Vinny/Snyder running things for sure

How could Anderson just fall off the cliff like that. One year Pro-Bowler, next year he's a bum. Just doesn't make sense.

Even during that Pro Bowl year there were signs that he was doing it with smoke and mirrors, he had a lot of ups and downs through that year. And then he tailed off badly at the end.