GTripp0012
11-01-2009, 01:41 PM
What about Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Ben Roethlisberger, Peyton Manning, Phillip Rivers, Eli Manning, Jay Cutler, Aaron Rodgers, Carson Palmer....About half those guys would be moderately successful here in our current situation without major organizational overhaul, and pretty much every one of those guys (that could succeed here) was a top three draft pick. We don't figure to be picking in the top three, and there is maybe one of that type of player in this draft anyway, if that.
If there's a "first-overall" type quarterback, you take him. If there's not, we can do better.
We'll probably be picking between 7 and 12, so there will be good quarterbacks available for us there, but those same guys will probably be available in the second round. And I'm not a subscriber to the "you have to get someone this year" philosophy. Learn to do something well on offense first, and then pick a quarterback who can help to emphasize that strength.
And if that something happens to be "run the football", then pretty much anyone will suffice.
WaldSkins
11-01-2009, 01:44 PM
GMScud -- I think 90% of the people on this board and inside the skins organization would love to move down. Problem is, no one will move up into a top 5 pick. Too much money and compensation given up to get the pick. If we could trade down for picks, I'd be very, very happy.
Im sure someone will want to move up. There will be that player that everyone is salivating over. Look at last year where everyone was trying to move up to select Sanchez with the Jets finally getting him.
With that said i think it's time for a fresh start at QB. You can still get Olineman deep in the draft but QBs are harder to find.
GTripp0012
11-01-2009, 01:46 PM
Since 1998, the first overall types have been:
- Peyton Manning
- Carson Palmer
- Phillip Rivers
- Ben Roethlisberger
- Matt Ryan
And you could possibly throw Rodgers and Eli in there as well, though I would not.
So if there's a first overall type once every 2 or 3 years, and it's generally pretty obvious when you have one, you can't pass on them. But it's not like you can trade up to try to create one, when it's just not there.
tryfuhl
11-01-2009, 01:50 PM
I think that it depends who's on the board at line still. I'm still not sold that we won't pick whose jersey will sell the best (maybe not literally.. but the "popular" option) at QB if we do that though.
tryfuhl
11-01-2009, 01:51 PM
GMScud -- I think 90% of the people on this board and inside the skins organization would love to move down. Problem is, no one will move up into a top 5 pick. Too much money and compensation given up to get the pick. If we could trade down for picks, I'd be very, very happy.
What position was Sanchez drafted at last year?
WaldSkins
11-01-2009, 01:51 PM
Since 1998, the first overall types have been:
- Peyton Manning
- Carson Palmer
- Phillip Rivers
- Ben Roethlisberger
- Matt Ryan
And you could possibly throw Rodgers and Eli in there as well, though I would not.
So if there's a first overall type once every 2 or 3 years, and it's generally pretty obvious when you have one, you can't pass on them. But it's not like you can trade up to try to create one, when it's just not there.
Just curious why your not including Eli in there when he was drafted before Big Ben was in 2004?
SmootSmack
11-01-2009, 01:51 PM
I think we can get a solid RB in even the 4th or 5th round.
GTripp0012
11-01-2009, 01:54 PM
Just curious why your not including Eli in there when he was drafted before Big Ben was in 2004?I think Big Ben is debatable there as well, actually. I just think he's less scheme dependent than Manning is.
SFREDSKIN
11-01-2009, 01:55 PM
OL, better bang for your buck.
GTripp0012
11-01-2009, 01:56 PM
I think we can get a solid RB in even the 4th or 5th round.I think we can as well, but we really need to get immediate dividends from that RB, and I'd rather spend a first or second rounder to get a franchise type guy than get stuck with a complementary guy in the 4th.
Of course, even a part time guy would be better than what we currently have.