Our 2010 First Round Draft Pick Should Be...

Best. Player. Available.

Not necessarily. I mean as I've said before, I don't believe Vinny is nearly as much of a BPA as he says he is. A lot of his first round picks I believe really have been BPA but after that I think he just picks whatever he wants and in many cases the one position he seems to avoid drafting at all cost is offensive lineman.

I personally like to look at is his quote about selecting a player at 13. I definately understand the sentiment towards drafting Orakpo but saying that no lineman was worthy of the 13th pick at that spot is just asinine especially seeing the way Michael Oher has played this year.

Like many fans I'm done with his ways. I don't trust him to do whats right. In fact I'd be willing to bet that if he's in charge of the draft next year none of our first two picks will be along the O-Line. Then we'll hear the same crap about his holy draft board and how no one there was worthy of our picks.

I don't care about Vinny. We have a roster where we need the best player available, regardless of position.

The o-line problems is the main problem I see and that is why I voted O-line. Guys like Alex Smith, David Carr etc... who were drafted as franchise QBs but were sacked to death because of non-existent o-lines, as another factor. (I know there is Matt Ryan & Joe Flacco but Ravens drafted some good o-linemen like Jared Gaither & 2 others the year before).

Obviously trading down for extra high picks is ideal but rarely do teams trade up for the top 5 picks.

Also, if there is a Javon Ringer type RB in the 2010 draft class we could pick up in the 4th rd, that would be super.

How many o-linemen do we need to draft???

1. LT
2. Starting RT???
3. Guard or Center - How about Edwin Williams???

No, it tells you that way too often QB's are over drafted. People fall in love with them and draft them too early. Guys like Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, and Brian Brohm, get over drafted, meanwhile a guy like Chad Henne who is not much less talented and gets selected in the second. Everybody thinks that they are going to end up with the next Peyton Manning in the first round, when the reality is that they are more than likely going to end up with the next Jamarcus Russell, Brady Quinn, Vince Young, Matt Leinart, Jay Cutler, Alex Smith, Aaron Rogers, or Jason Campbell. I think that it is safe to say that only one of those names (maybe 2) were actually worth a first round selection. Neither was the first QB taken in the draft either. Joe Gibbs once said that if you can protect the QB, then there are about 26 guys who can play in this league, if you cannot protect them there are only about 5. I paraphrased because I didn’t want to screw his words up. Needless to say if you look at previous draft history you can find some 2nd-6th rounders that you can develop into solid starters that might be as effective as or better than 1st round draft picks at the QB position.

National Football League: NFL Draft History Full Draft - by Position (http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?type=position)
I cant believe you put Cutler and Rogers in that list. They are worlds ahead of them. Yes you are right thats why you have to keep taking chances till you get one.

jake locker is also a QB to get some looks 6'3 and 225...just saying...he's like Tebow..except he can throw.

jake locker is also a QB to get some looks 6'3 and 225...just saying...he's like Tebow..except he can throw.

Ya, he's good, but if bradford falls to us, and/or Okung is off the board, then I think we should still take Bradford, now if all the good LT's are off the board, which I doubt, and Bradford's out, then yeah go ahead and get Locker

2010 NFL Free Agent Offensive Linemen
By: Roshan Bhagat

Age as of 9/1/09. All free agents listed here are done so with an optimistic outlook that a new CBA will be agreed upon. Accordingly, only four accrued seasons are necessary to obtain an Unrestricted Free Agency status on this list.

Jahri Evans, New Orleans Saints (26)
Jahri Evans is continuing to grade out as the team’s best run-blocking linemen week after week. The Saints have done a nice job of efficiently running the ball through the middle and on the right side of the line. His continual high level of play and positive, team-first attitude should translate to a high-end offensive guard contract at year’s end. Expect the Saints, who have nothing but positive things to say towards Evans, to richly reward him for his hard work and production.

Logan Mankins, New England Patriots (27)
Logan Mankins has been a very consistent player for the Patriots since he was drafted. That type of consistency is difficult to match, but with free agency inflating the value of offensive guards, the Patriots may end up letting him walk if the price isn’t right. They drafted a couple interior linemen last year and have to use some of their free money to re-sign other players. From what Mankins has said, he wants to stay on this winning franchise, but he could be one of the top players available next offseason.

Marcus McNeill, San Diego Chargers (25)
McNeill isn’t playing at an elite level this year, but is still an above average left tackle. He’s one of the “bigger” names at the left tackle position thanks to his spectacular, hyped rookie season. McNeill has also been undercompensated the last few years playing on his rookie contract as a 2nd round pick, which may incline him to ask for more money than he “deserves.” Any of the Chargers could feasibly be had this offseason and McNeill is no different, but with some of the offensive line woes of the Chargers, McNeill may be one of their top priorities. His long-term neck and back problems could be in the back of the team’s mind as well.

Daryn Colledge, Green Bay Packers (27)
Colledge is no longer viewed as the solution at left tackle in Green Bay. Mid-round TJ Lang has taken over the back-up position there. That alone is enough to make his value take a significant plunge. This will especially be overstated because of his poor performance in the team’s biggest game to date – Monday Night in Minnesota. Still, he’s an above average starting offensive guard and a great pass protector in the interior. Colledge’s value will most likely be highest to the Packers because he’s a great fit for what they do and they know his true value.

Jared Gaither, Baltimore Ravens (23) – Restricted FA
After being taken off the field on a stretcher in New England, Gaither luckily suffered no season or career threatening injury. His return to the field should come in the upcoming weeks. The Ravens have found their bookend tackles, with him and Oher on either side, and even if they can’t settle on a long-term deal with Gaither this offseason, they still have the ability to put a tender on him. At the very least, it would force teams to give up serious compensation for his services. Gaither’s length and athleticism make him an ideal fit at left tackle, but could possibly get him for less coin if they think Oher is capable of playing LT and pay Gaither on the right side.

Winston Justice, Philadelphia Eagles (24)
Justice is finally starting to live up to his expectations as a 2nd round selection. He’s played well in pass protection at right tackle replacing the oft-injured Shawn Andrews. The Eagles are in a tricky situation. Andrews has flashed so much potential and played well when on the field, but has struggled to give them enough snaps without getting injured. Should the team re-sign Justice, they could very well be putting Justice on the bench at the cost of a starter. They already have last year’s free agent acquisition, Stacy Andrews expensively riding the bench.

Kevin Mawae, Tennessee Titans (38)
Mawae has started all six games for the Titans this year, but with his contract expiring, the line may turn to Leroy Harris who will have been groomed for 3 years, sparingly seeing the field. If Mawae is up for another season, he could land on a number of teams, or just re-sign in Tennessee. He still has a little gas left in the tank and it the Titans pass on him, several teams will be lining up for him and accept the leadership he brings to the team.

Chad Clifton, Green Bay Packers (33)
Clifton has suffered a lingering ankle injury this season forcing the Packers to retreat to other options at left tackle. Even when on the field, Clifton hasn’t looked like half the player he was in his prime where he was one of the league’s best pass blockers. The years of injury and battle have worn on Clifton who has lost some of his discipline and been beaten on several occasions. If Clifton isn’t offered another contract in Green Bay, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the franchise’s great blind side protector call it quits.

Mike Gandy, Arizona Cardinals (30)
Gandy has struggled immensely and should definitely be upgraded this offseason. He doesn’t hold much value on the left side and may be asked to move to the right side for the rest of his career. If Arizona can’t find a better replacement, they could potentially try and get one more year out of him, but the Cardinals would be pushing their luck.


So, don't be surprised if we go this route and draft a QB

Ya, he's good, but if bradford falls to us, and/or Okung is off the board, then I think we should still take Bradford, now if all the good LT's are off the board, which I doubt, and Bradford's out, then yeah go ahead and get Locker

are you new to dc, we draft over hyped receivers and really good players that we think would be better suiteed at a new position, not o linemen

are you new to dc, we draft over hyped receivers and really good players that we think would be better suiteed at a new position, not o linemen

haha, well I'm HOPING that we take the draft route that we did back in 1999 with Samuels. But good point none the less. That's also why I put up the Free Agent OLinemen that will be available during the offseason, assuming maybe we go for a QB.

are you new to dc, we draft over hyped receivers and really good players that we think would be better suiteed at a new position, not o linemen

For purposes of this discussion, I'd like to assume that Vinny will be gone and that we'll have a real GM by the time we draft.

With that in mind, maybe we will draft a LT in the first round. If so, then it would be nice to pick up QB Jake Locker in the early second round.