Will Dan Snyder finally fire Vinny Cerrato

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SmootSmack
10-31-2009, 01:05 AM
I could see Campbell in Arizona or Seattle next year, depending on certain things of course

mlmdub130
10-31-2009, 01:09 AM
Young padewa I once thought as you, but JC is degressing if anything as a starter. During the preseason Cutler crap I thought JC could in fact leave the team to become a starter for say Oakland, KC, TB, etc, but now I don't think too many teams are going to put a premium on him other than a backup.

i'm not saying he is a great qb all i am sayin is he isn't the #1 problem, and to say he could start on 5 or so teams in the nfl and make them better might sound good but doesn't carry that much weight, i'm talkin oakland, tampa, st. louis, clevland, kansas city, j'ville, as bad as he is here he could easily ad one win to each of their schedules

mooby
10-31-2009, 01:36 AM
I'd be completely happy if Vinny just went with a different job in the organization. As long as it wasn't involved in personnel or drafting. More like the business side, not the football side. Heck, give him a job with a title that doesn't mean shit just to make him feel better.

But honestly I feel like it won't matter if Snyder doesn't change his ways either. Meaning like, I keep hearing these things about Vinny is Snyder's cover boy, aka Snyder makes Vinny do the dirty work so Vinny gets blamed for Snyder being too meddlesome.

I just want a GM that will serve as a buffer between DS and whatever head coach the GM hires. Someone who won't be afraid to stand up to DS and convince him if he is making the wrong decision. I'm not entirely confident DS would hire a GM like that but I'd love if that happened. I know some of the blame is on Vinny (hiring Jim Zorn was his move) but it's not all his fault.

The Goat
10-31-2009, 01:47 AM
does this mean you think collins should have been the starter the past two years? if so i have a bone to pick, i've NEVER been a big jc supporter but i have said he is not the #1 problem and could easily make 5 to 6 teams in the nfl better if he was on the team. Collins is just a name for fans to yell when they get pissed that jc isn't making plays, he is in no way a starting qb in the nfl, i think that was proven two weeks ago

Hmmm I guess I could be more clear. Collins was Saunders student/backup QB for something like 10 years. Is Collins a tremendous talent w/ superior physical ability? Far from it. But he's very bright and dedicated and in Saunders offense he led the offense effectively in the time he was given, so I think logically Saunders would have liked to see Collins continue to lead while JC watched and learned how the system is supposed to run. I believe Tripp has said at one point or another Collins wasn't statistically fantastic (similar to Jason's stats); however what I believe is Collins was more effective finishing drives and finding his targets as the field gets so short in the redzone. In the current offensive system, if you can call it that, it's hard to say whether Collins would fare better than Jason over say a 6 game stretch. Probably doesn't matter...

mlmdub130
10-31-2009, 01:56 AM
Hmmm I guess I could be more clear. Collins was Saunders student/backup QB for something like 10 years. Is Collins a tremendous talent w/ superior physical ability? Far from it. But he's very bright and dedicated and in Saunders offense he led the offense effectively in the time he was given, so I think logically Saunders would have liked to see Collins continue to lead while JC watched and learned how the system is supposed to run. I believe Tripp has said at one point or another Collins wasn't statistically fantastic (similar to Jason's stats); however what I believe is Collins was more effective finishing drives and finding his targets as the field gets so short in the redzone. In the current offensive system, if you can call it that, it's hard to say whether Collins would fare better than Jason over say a 6 game stretch. Probably doesn't matter...

exactly, bottom line this year 6-10 is for us wishful thinkers

CultBrennan59
10-31-2009, 10:01 PM
my guess is snyder won't fire him, but he could definitley depromote him

Hog1
10-31-2009, 11:46 PM
Hey Vin, here's the keys. Grab the clubs and I'll meet you in the club house!

tryfuhl
11-01-2009, 06:19 AM
I think he's got to be completely out of the picture. Perhaps he will resign?
Vinny has no power without Danny's backing, I think

He could keep the title, they could bring in a GM with autonomy.. and everything would be all honky dory in Redskins land for Vinny

tryfuhl
11-01-2009, 06:23 AM
Donovan being named COO of the Redskins and overseeing stadium operations takes away one of the jobs I thought Cerrato might end up having
For those, like me, that are lesser informed on this:

washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/30/AR2009103003559.html)

tryfuhl
11-01-2009, 06:26 AM
my guess is snyder won't fire him, but he could definitley depromote him
in the professional world, we call that demoting

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