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firstdown 10-28-2009, 01:45 PM Well then, for the record, I have an original 'Fire Dan Snyder' tshirt back from the marty era, when the actual website was up. This has long been an issue for me.
Post a pick of the T shirt.
GMScud 10-28-2009, 01:47 PM Having been a part of the local media covering the Redskins back in the day the rule was always you can talk to tailgaters, you just can't set up shop in the parking lot. Like WUSA can't go set up their truck inside there. I think it's largely due to logistical reasons, but media has always been allowed to interview tailgaters. You just can't, as I noted, bring all your gear (namely a truck) into the lot. If I remember right we couldn't even bring cameras in either.
Maybe that rule has since changed, and if so that's unfortunate, but my guess is that something just wasn't communicated properly.
At the end of the day though we're just talking about fans being interviewed before or after a game...or not. The timing of all this makes it seem bad, but the Hitler comparisons are ridiculous
Well to me that's exactly the point. If we were winning and/or the Danny and VC weren't under heavy fire, do you really think they'd care about media talking to tailgaters? To me it's plain as day- Napoleon is doing everything in his power to suppress negativity towards himself and the organization. The funny thing is, this kind of stuff is only going to make the hating worse.
This isn't as bad as throwing out fans because of t-shirts though. That's the most pathetic thing I've seen from Danny.
BrunellMVP? 10-28-2009, 01:48 PM They official line is that T-shirts are allowed (so long as it doesn't contain profanity), posters on the other hand are prohibited.
doughtydoubter 10-28-2009, 01:51 PM sad that its come to this...and yet stilll people will go to the games and buy expensive hotdogs and put money in his pocket
GMScud 10-28-2009, 01:51 PM For the last two years or so, I have been saying here that the ONLY real way to get Danny Boy's attention and give him real grief is to hit him in the ego. And now you can see how he and his minions react when the first wave of that kind of abuse gets in his face.
He does not like to be told that he is wrong about anything. If one of the security folks told him that it just didn't seem right to forbid someone from bringing in a sign that said "Hi Dad! Stay Safe in Afghanistan!" with an American Flag emblem on it, Danny Boy is 50/50 to fire that security guy on the spot. NO one tells him he is wrong about ANYTHING. If you don't believe that, ask any of the 15 PR people that have come and gone through the Skins organization in the last 6 or 7 years. Only a few of them have truly resigned; the rest have "resigned" - - and taken a buyout with a confidentiality clause.
Danny Boy's yes-men are closing ranks around him to protect him from the ego-abuse he is taking and should continue to take. The more he tries to be a hard-ass about this, the more he will be held up to ridicule - - so long as fans keep the heat on.
Too bad FedEX field is in tightly controlled airspace. I know two private pilots who have planes who want to fly banners around the stadium with a message for fans and for "The Incumbent Owner"... Air traffic control makes that almost impossible.
Great post. Couldn't agree more. I didn't know Danny was in the pockets of air-traffic controllers. No surprise. What a little maggot that guy is. I know he's done good things with charity/cancer research etc etc, and that's fine. But what I'm concerned with is his ownership of my beloved team, and at that he's a big fat FAIL.
SmootSmack 10-28-2009, 01:56 PM Well to me that's exactly the point. If we were winning and/or the Danny and VC weren't under heavy fire, do you really think they'd care about media talking to tailgaters? To me it's plain as day- Napoleon is doing everything in his power to suppress negativity towards himself and the organization. The funny thing is, this kind of stuff is only going to make the hating worse.
This isn't as bad as throwing out fans because of t-shirts though. That's the most pathetic thing I've seen from Danny.
This all if the initial report in the post is accurate...which I don't think it is
munny 10-28-2009, 02:01 PM Are you questioning the tailgate thing or the t-shirt thing. The t-shirt thing is 100% real, I saw it. The tailgate thing, that could be a misinterpretation but given his current actions there is no reason to think he would not do that. After all, if you are going after tailgaters, in the parking lot, for hanging anti-snyder banners then everything else is plausible.
SmootSmack 10-28-2009, 02:06 PM I'm talking specifically about media access to tailgaters
firstdown 10-28-2009, 02:13 PM Are you questioning the tailgate thing or the t-shirt thing. The t-shirt thing is 100% real, I saw it. The tailgate thing, that could be a misinterpretation but given his current actions there is no reason to think he would not do that. After all, if you are going after tailgaters, in the parking lot, for hanging anti-snyder banners then everything else is plausible.
I'd still like to see the pic of the original Fire Him T Shirt from ten years ago.
SBXVII 10-28-2009, 02:14 PM Redskins dealing clumsily with rampant unrest
Posted by Mike Florio on October 28, 2009 9:19 AM ET
Everyone who follows the NFL knows that the Redskins are struggling (and Joe Namath couldn't care less). After seven games, they've won only two -- one by two points at home against the 0-7 Rams and one by three at home against the 0-7 Bucs.
But with coach Jim Zorn supposedly sticking around for the rest of the year and a crippling schedule awaiting after the bye (Falcons, Broncos, Cowboys, Eagles, Saints, Raiders, Giants, Cowboys, Chargers), there's not much more that can be said about the team.
There's plenty that can be said about the manner in which the team is -- or isn't -- dealing with the criticism that goes with the territory of being terrible.
For starters, the team has implemented a new "no signs" policy, which makes sense since the signs will be increasingly unflattering as the losses pile up.
Now, WUSA-TV (via Dan Steinberg's D.C. Sports Bog) says that the team is prohibiting television interviews of tailgaters.
Said anchor Derek McGinty on Tuesday, "Tonight the Redskins have seemingly escalated things again; they've banned media interviews with tailgating fans on FedEx Field property. They told our sports director Brett Haber that this has always been team policy, but when he pointed out that we and other stations, including their very own broadcast partners, have in fact always talked openly to tailgaters, there was, well let's just say, no further explanation."
The situation got even more tense when Redskins General Counsel Dave Donovan spoke with Mike Wise of the Washington Post on Wise's radio show at 106.7 The Fan in D.C. (SportsRadioInterviews.com has the link to the audio.)
The far better approach, in our view, would be to let the fans vent during the bad times. Heavy-handed tactics will serve only to increase the sense of frustration -- and will ultimately alienate hundreds if not thousands of paying customers.
UPDATE: Redskins blogger Matt Terl has put together a partial transcript of the Wise-Donovan debate. Donovan separately told Terl that fans are permitted to wear T-shirts critical of the team, as long as the shirts contain no profanity. Then again, in the eyes of many Redskins fans, the words "Snyder" and "Cerrato" currently are regarded as profane.
This was from PFT, but I found it interesting about the T-shirts. I hope the guys who (if true) was harrassed gets an apology from the Danmiester or perhaps free beer for the remaining part of the season for his inconvenience.
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