SkinFanatic
10-27-2009, 07:23 PM
Are you guys all for real? Vinny Cerrato is nothing more than a yesman for little Napoleon. Sure he's in way over his head. He's no GM. He's totally covering his ass and a terrible liar to boot. But make no mistake. You can lay the entire blame for this debacle at the feet of DS.
Defensewins
10-27-2009, 07:38 PM
Although I don't know all the facts about who made every decision, I have to believe this as well. Duckett was a major waste, as well as the other mid-round picks we traded during Gibbs 2. We traded away our depth when we traded away those mid-rounders.
If we could actually draft well that would be true, but Snyderatto is not good at drafting players. Look at our last two drafts. Even if you combined both of the last two drafts as one, it is still a terrible draft.
SBXVII
10-27-2009, 07:40 PM
I was soooo hoping to hear that VC got fired after last night. They can keep Zorn till the end of the season, but I was sooo hoping we as fans would see DS do something to give us hope that he was not going to put up with the typical SSDD.
budw38
10-27-2009, 07:56 PM
Vinny the schmuck . So much for accountability .
Lotus
10-27-2009, 10:45 PM
Hindsight... I dont remember anyone complaining when we got Orakpo. You guys complained about lack of sacks, hello Rak and Haynesworth = Sacks.
I for one thought that drafting Rak was a good idea and I said so.
I also, along with others, remarked that the Rak pick meant doing double-duty to bring in free agent offensive linemen post-draft. That's the part of the memo that Vinny mostly missed. Signing Mike Williams was not a major move and Bridges got cut, and that's all that Vinny did in response to our post-draft reality.
So I don't blame him for picking Rak over Oher. I blame him because he did not do much else.
The Goat
10-27-2009, 11:06 PM
Pretty hard hitting. Here's a damning statement(i like orakpo):
Does that mean Oher wasn't worth it and that they couldn't trade back like cleveland did?
again I like orakpo, but there was a top quality OL available.
Word...I've thought about Oher time and again. Of course we didn't know he would fall so far but the dream move would have been a trade back to about 20 and find a way to get a high 2nd rounder, grab Oher first and one of the quality LBs available in the 2nd...like that kid Rey who's having a pretty impressive season so far ;)
...oh well, i guess that's why Vinny gets paid the big bucks
The Goat
10-27-2009, 11:18 PM
Vinny is a liar, maybe a compulsive one, but a lousy one for certain. While I've tended to leave character out of criticizing our ownership, I also think it's hard to honestly say Vinny's continued presence doesn't say a great deal about lil D as a person. Snyder is clearly content with the face of the organization being a dishonest buffoon.
tryfuhl
10-28-2009, 03:39 AM
Well, it seems that there is a thread about this already, so I will just say that I do not agree. Even Jim Rome just blasted Lewis for his play calling that wasn't much different from the past. I could get more into it, but I won't. If you think Sherm did well enough to retain his rights after the season, (not that you're saying that, just saying) then go for it. Is he better than Zorn? Shit, I'd give Lewis the head coach job right now...thats how much I think Zorn sucks.
This is where the execution part plays into it
Jim Rome is a turd and not even a polished one at that. You can't look at a play as only "this type of pass" blah blah.. the motions, rollouts, shotgun, different back sets, etc all play into it.
Luxorreb
10-28-2009, 05:30 AM
I wish the Dan would just fire Cerrato now. Bring in Shanahan now. Or whoever the GM will be. Snyder is not an idiot and he has got to realize the HUGENESS of this problem. I'm a lifelong fan @ 37 years old and a season ticket holder for 10 years now. I'm blue collar and spend lotsa money on my tickets and driving from Richmond every Sunday. Well I'm not doing it anymore (maybe Dallas game), but otherwise not doing it. Had enough of the bullshit. Not allowing people to wear those Fire Vinny shirts is fucking ridiculous. I'd rather have them ban green or Eagles jerseys. Snyder if you continue to go down this road you will lose me and eventually all of the real true Redskins fans. I'm not questioning my fandom because of the 2-5 record, but simply because of the disarray the organization is in. It makes me very sad. Sorry to go on a tangent... I love my Redskins please hire a GM that knows friggin' FOOTBALL!
skins89moss
10-28-2009, 07:13 AM
This years draft
1. Orakpo ( It was also a need pick because we were at the bottom of the league in sacks.)
2.Barnes ( This pick makes no sense, since he is not active on game day. So far a wasted pick for a 3rd rounder.
3.Drafted 2 LB's ( Henson, Cody Glenn) Glenn released, Henson not active on game day. So far 2 wasted picks.
4.Marko Mitchell ( Pleasent surprise in preseason but he is not active on game day. We also drafted 2WR's the year before so why the need to draft another WR? So far another wasted pick form the 2009 draft class.)
We did not have a 2nd rd pick due to trading for Jason Taylor. We release Taylor and have nothing to show for the 2nd round pick. Another wasted move that is catching up to us this season.
Who is held responsible for these moves? VC and Dan.