Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???

Another key distinction between 2001 and 2009:


Martin Edward Schottenheimer

This is the main reason I hate Daniel Snyder. He's the only owner in the entire league who would've fired a man who went 8-8 after an 0-5 start in his first year as coach. We showed so much promise by the end of 2001. What does Snyder do? He fires Marty and brings in the old ball coach. Moronic hack of an owner...

I'll be honest I laughed at Marty when he was with KC. I thought they would be a better team with out him. They did worse when he left.

He eventually came to the Skins and I was somewhat excited, then learned about how he was over working the players and they had a meeting to complain to him and he said he would go a little lighter on them. I assumed after he went 8-8 he would get another year to see what he could do with the team....then all the crap about him having VC fired and wanting more authority in the front office fell in line with DS letting him go.

Marty goes to San Diego and that team rocks off a few good yrs with him. Winning seasons. I don't care how many stats you show or point out that he can't win the big one....if you don't have a winning season you can't even have a chance at the dance. 2 yrs out of 12+ yrs we have been afforded the chance to, with a winning season, play in the post season. Marty is proven to have winning seasons. He's proven he can get into the post season. At this point I'd be happy with atleast that opportunity vs. what we have been having.

"If" DS is honest in saying he and Marty are good friends now and talk all the time then he should honestly explore this option. Speak with MS about taking the GM job and bring his son from the Jets to be HC. Just my opinion. You can't win with out decent talent and MS has proven he knows how to pick talent.

My personal feeling is it won't happen though. I get the feeling DS would not have enough balls to contact MS and speak with him about this cause that would make DS look like he was wrong in letting him go. Better that DS looks good then to admit one might have made a mistake. Ownership 101.

I'm OK with Marty as the GM, you are right, he knows talent. He can't coach when the game is on the line, but he knows talent. Let's also not forget he will be in his late 60's, and that's NOT an age you want to hire a HC.

This is the main reason I hate Daniel Snyder. He's the only owner in the entire league who would've fired a man who went 8-8 after an 0-5 start in his first year as coach. We showed so much promise by the end of 2001. What does Snyder do? He fires Marty and brings in the old ball coach. Moronic hack of an owner...
didn't some other team fire a head coach who went 14-2. It's not all moronic hack thinking.

didn't some other team fire a head coach who went 14-2. It's not all moronic hack thinking.

How many fans do you suppose were screaming for Snyder to fire Marty at 0-5? "Idiot owner, can't even hire a damn head coach. We're 0-5 with that loser Marty!!! Sell the team Danny Boy. Listen to the fans!"

How many fans do you suppose were screaming for Snyder to fire Marty at 0-5? "Idiot owner, can't even hire a damn head coach. We're 0-5 with that loser Marty!!! Sell the team Danny Boy. Listen to the fans!"

Well I remember Marty trying to make DG28 participate in the summer, don't recall the exact drills, and also how Marty was trying to tell DG28 how to play CB. I remember that caused quite the uproar.

Well I remember Marty trying to make DG28 participate in the summer, don't recall the exact drills, and also how Marty was trying to tell DG28 how to play CB. I remember that caused quite the uproar.


Well the coach's want the players to do things their way. Maybe he was wrong maybe he was right. If he was teaching the CB's not to sit 20yrds down field then I'm with him. However DG28 was the only player with the Skins that has been able to pull that off. All others have gotten burned regularly when sitting so far off.

didn't some other team fire a head coach who went 14-2. It's not all moronic hack thinking.

I have no idea how that slipped my mind... :doh: lol