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CRedskinsRule 10-27-2009, 10:11 AM First, if the mods want to merge this, it's all good.
I really want to ask the biggest underlying question: How much of yesterday's game, good and bad, were tied to the introduction of Sherman Lewis. Some key examples that I would cite:
Rock/Betts together in the backfield more.
DT specifically thrown at more
Shotgun at the 2 - good and bad plays out of it.
Maybe less specific but also:
more confusion in the pass pro, without Zorn in his ear did Campbell miss setting assignments
Also was the playcalling better, or just different?
It seemed to me that player execution was noticeably worse. Particularly Campbell early. and middle. and late.
So, bottom line, with the bye week here, and 2 weeks to reset this season. What did bringing Lewis in impact? Will his presence be an overall positive, negative, or I don't give an eff, throw me another beer? (Trample, I know your answer :) )
redsk1 10-27-2009, 10:15 AM I thought the playcalling was fine. It may have actually been better than recent weeks imo. Execution on the other hand was lacking in the OL and QB.
freddyg12 10-27-2009, 10:19 AM I don't think we can attribute DT's role solely to Lewis. Zorn had said a few weeks ago that they were trying to get him involved & obviously he'd put him in the starting lineup v. KC.
I did like the shotgun inside the 5. that play to Davis was a td if campbell can just hold on a split second longer to get off an accurate throw. Totally a great call though.
Were the pass pro problems more related to assignments or simply that Davis & Heyer couldn't block their guys? (on the bright side, I didn't see MW's man getting pressure, he appears to be playing fairly well)
freddyg12 10-27-2009, 10:21 AM oh, one thing that killed me w/the playcalling: a couple of the sacks were on 2nd & long, and we called play action. By the time JC was turned around to throw the iggles were all over him. That seemed poor play calling to me; the iggles had no reason to respect our run game, they stopped it all night. To run play action you generally have to have some success running first. We didn't have any.
I thought the playcalling was hugely improved.
Execution, hmmm....
Zorn needs to be relieved of all responsibilities, he is clearly an idiot.
Play calling wasn't an issue and honestly I didn't see where it impacted things positively or negatively. The main issue is, and has been all year with the execution side of things.
You can call plays directly from a Bill Walsh playbook but it's not going to matter if the players don't go out and do their jobs.
Chico23231 10-27-2009, 10:29 AM Playcalling I thought was a little better, but JC, Heyer, Rabach, ARE, Montgomery, Williams are all horrible. I thought JC's play was maybe the sh*test I have ever seen him. HE IS NOT IMPROVING. The execution was garbage. I just cant stand ARE, put him on the sh*t FA list under DS's reign of terror. That was another waste of F-ing money. God how bad can this FO be? Its the f*cking horrible.
MdBluefinCrab 10-27-2009, 10:34 AM Decent play calling, lousy o-line, lousy QB and no sense of urgency with this team.
I'm sure Snyder will fix things during the bye week and we'll be on the road to the division title, the playoffs, etc.
Yeah, Snyder the genius does it again.
tryfuhl 10-27-2009, 10:36 AM I don't think we can attribute DT's role solely to Lewis. Zorn had said a few weeks ago that they were trying to get him involved & obviously he'd put him in the starting lineup v. KC.
I did like the shotgun inside the 5. that play to Davis was a td if campbell can just hold on a split second longer to get off an accurate throw. Totally a great call though.
Were the pass pro problems more related to assignments or simply that Davis & Heyer couldn't block their guys? (on the bright side, I didn't see MW's man getting pressure, he appears to be playing fairly well)
Zorn has said he wanted to get DT more involved every week since last year man. He also said that he's been calling plays that use Thomas just to occupy a defender.. maybe that had something to do with the gameplan, which I'm sure that Lewis has been an integral part of.
With Davis I think that Campbell usually looked at those routes for Cooley so it was easy for him to get the ball to Davis.
skinsguy 10-27-2009, 10:38 AM I thought the play calling was good. The execution is horrible! And honestly, if the execution had been there all year 'round, Zorn would probably still be calling plays.
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