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Trample the Elderly 10-27-2009, 02:28 PM who do you want us to build our team around? We need a complete rebuilding of our team, and JC isn't gonna be the guy to take us anywhere. I know it's not as sure of a hit, but the benefit of getting a solid QB for the future is worth the risk. If we have a qb, we will always have an offense. Look at what Aaron Rogers did while his O-line was beat up. For a few games, their O-line was significantly worse than the skins.
This team has been doing what you suggest for YEARS!
Pocket$ $traight 10-27-2009, 02:30 PM who do you want us to build our team around? We need a complete rebuilding of our team, and JC isn't gonna be the guy to take us anywhere. I know it's not as sure of a hit, but the benefit of getting a solid QB for the future is worth the risk. If we have a qb, we will always have an offense. Look at what Aaron Rogers did while his O-line was beat up. For a few games, their O-line was significantly worse than the skins.
You are displaying the thinking that got us into this position. Our problem is not our quarterback. You think Orton, Sanchez or hell Manning or Brady would have been any different last night? I have seen the body language that Campbell displayed before, he looked exactly like Patrick Ramsey. He was a punching bag and was just waiting for the hits to come.
What did Gibbs with with? It wasn't the QB, it was the line. The only constant of our dominating teams was the offensive line.
skinster 10-27-2009, 02:31 PM This team has been doing what you suggest for YEARS!
I don't remember ever getting a top 5 QB. Especially one we don't have to give up draft picks to get.
Do you not agree that a QB is a necessity to succeed in this league? How do you recommend we go about getting one? Stick with JC? That isn't working. Get a FA QB? Who that is going to be reliable?
Pocket$ $traight 10-27-2009, 02:32 PM This won't happen. There will be much more of an emphasis placed on the draft in the uncapped world. Players will be restricted free agents until they have 6 years of experience in the NFL. Therefore, "paying market value for a good young tackle" more than likely includes a first round pick. That's not really worth it. There won't be a lot of good young players available.
And teams will be able to use both the Franchise and Transition tag in the same offseason with no cap, so that's 2 fewer players per team who will be available. I'd definitely franchise my youngish tackle if he were up for UFA.
Also, Campbell and Rogers will both be RFA's so it would take a qualifying offer to either keep them or receive compensation for them (this should at least be done in the case of Rogers).
With the new rules taking effect, it's going to be very difficult to build a team without a whole bunch of picks which means if there isn't a legit GM in Washington soon, we can cut everyone we want, but don't count on them being effectively replaced.
Every year a few good linemen are available. And don't discount the fact that some agents know that Snyder will be looking for a big name lineman and will do what it takes to get their clients a contract here.
Pocket$ $traight 10-27-2009, 02:35 PM I don't remember ever getting a top 5 QB. Especially one we don't have to give up draft picks to get.
Do you not agree that a QB is a necessity to succeed in this league? How do you recommend we go about getting one? Stick with JC? That isn't working. Get a FA QB? Who that is going to be reliable?
I am absolutely floored that anyone wants a QB with our first pick. How do you watch Stephon Heyer last night and call for a quarterback?
GMScud 10-27-2009, 02:36 PM I don't remember ever getting a top 5 QB. Especially one we don't have to give up draft picks to get.
Do you not agree that a QB is a necessity to succeed in this league? How do you recommend we go about getting one? Stick with JC? That isn't working. Get a FA QB? Who that is going to be reliable?
Top 5 QB draft picks are a total crap shoot. More bust than boom really. On the flip side, we're FAR more likely to get a top tier starting caliber O-lineman (who can immediately contribute) with a top 5-10 pick. I want no part of Sam Bradford or Colt McCoy.
IMO we'd be much better off taking a lineman with the 1st pick, then grabbing a QB in the second or third round. I said it before, I'd like to see Tony Pike or Zac Robinson. Depending on how the draft board looks in April, I wouldn't mind trading down in the first round to accumulate multiple selections. Hopefully we'll have a real GM making decisions by then.
Big C 10-27-2009, 02:39 PM pike maybe, zac i dont think will translate to the pro game well.
Trample the Elderly 10-27-2009, 02:41 PM I don't remember ever getting a top 5 QB. Especially one we don't have to give up draft picks to get.
Do you not agree that a QB is a necessity to succeed in this league? How do you recommend we go about getting one? Stick with JC? That isn't working. Get a FA QB? Who that is going to be reliable?
You must work for the front office. If I was a MOD I'd ban front office people from posting on this site.
No, I don't agree a QB is a necessity. Eli Manning has WALL EYES!
Here's to you an your bright ideas. :vomit:
GMScud 10-27-2009, 02:42 PM pike maybe, zac i dont think will translate to the pro game well.
Pike seems a lot like a Joe Flacco to me. I'd take that in a second. I like Zac Robinson's pocket awareness, feet, and quick release.
diehardskin2982 10-27-2009, 02:44 PM I will not argue that the line isn't bad. Stevie Wonder can see that problem, but I do feel that Cerratto can get off his ass and make something happen.
We could pick up a Jon Runyan slide Mike Williams to gaurd and Levi Jones moves to Left tackle. That would stregthen the oline, the running game would become better. Campbell was fragile mentally before from what happened in the off season and this year, it's time to move on. Jeff could come in learn the basics in the bye week and you could go the PC route, let Campbell start the ATL game then bench him after he stinks it up. They have to do all they can to get this turned around, I don't think they are right doing that right now. Why waste a roster spot on Ganther who will never see the playing field?
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