The line is quite offensive right now

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diehardskin2982
10-27-2009, 10:48 AM
That's suicide. Collins would have been sacked at least 10 times last night. At least Campbell can avoid some sacks.

Jeff Garcia is the answer. He brings the attitude and he's been in a west coast offense all his career. He may not have a huge arm but he would give us a chance and he is also great in the pocket.

Longtimefan
10-27-2009, 10:48 AM
Yeah funny enough Williams hasn't looked half bad.

While some have paused to make mockery of Williams, when you look at what we have as far as OL is concerned, I'm rather glad he rounded into shape to be able to help us as much as he has. Without him we'd be in even worse shape.

Some thought he would not play at all this season.

Monkeydad
10-27-2009, 10:51 AM
Jeff Garcia is the answer. He brings the attitude and he's been in a west coast offense all his career. He may not have a huge arm but he would give us a chance and he is also great in the pocket.

Are you his agent? You're posting this crazy idea everywhere.

Chico23231
10-27-2009, 10:57 AM
While some have paused to make mockery of Williams, when you look at what we have as far as OL is concerned, I'm rather glad he rounded into shape to be able to help us as much as he has. Without him we'd be in even worse shape.

Some thought he would not play at all this season.

He has proven to be a good backup, surprisingly. He is not a solution at RT long term. He is not starters material. I would like to see them keep him around for depth.

Bill B
10-27-2009, 11:00 AM
I told y'all that Raback was on his last legs, and that he should've been moved to guard. I told y'all we should have draft Mack, Loadholt, Oher, and or Robinson. Oh you're stupid Tramp, huh, you don't draft a center in the first round. You mean you're not happy that we picked up a DE with our first and with our third next year? Chaz Reinhardt and Deb'n Clark are going to step up. Stretch Armstrong is going to pull through.

Priorities! I knew this was going to happen. I knew it. You think this is bad? Our defense can handle Filthy compared to what's coming. Wait until New Orleans and Dallas. eff it . . . .


Trample - I agree and I remember many of your posts about getting Mack and I wish the Skins had listened. I truely think that the Skins draft 2 new lineman and 1 free agent - with the first pick being Russell Okung to solidify the left tackle spot for the next 5-7 years - if we are lucky enough that he is available when we pick. The other pick being either a guard or center - I just don't see us picking both bookend tackles in the same draft. I think we see both Randy Thomas and Chris Samuels gone from the Redskins next year - I like both of these guys but we need to recommit to building the line with youth and using high picks to get them. If the CBA falls through and we go uncapped I can see the Skins going extreme and using the 1st and 2nd round picks on lineman and plugging the other 2 offensive lineman positions with free agents -the only holdover would be Dockery as the other 4 are nothing to build the long term future with. even with this next year would be a learning year as the new line gets in sync and used to eachother.

Also I think the stopgap measure is we bring in a veteran qb to be picked by the next coach/gm and let him take the reigns for a year or two or use Colt - as many have correctly pointed out it does not matter who you put back there without a decent line they will be killed.

Big C
10-27-2009, 11:03 AM
I would agree with that about the Oline, they are terrible. But when I watch JC this year and he gets time to make a play, 9 times out of 10 he cant. He is afraid to throw, gun-shy, going through progressions too fast and flat out missing guys who are open....I just havent seen it from him. The turnovers especially the fumbling...every QB gets hit but he fumbles more than others.

exactly. even when he does get time he doesnt remain calm and make the proper reads.

diehardskin2982
10-27-2009, 11:14 AM
Are you his agent? You're posting this crazy idea everywhere.

No, but I see the problems of the redskins and it's is squarely on the QB shoulders. We need a new attitude on this offense. Some HEART. What are Garcia's strengths.

He has excellent feet
He will get the ball out quick
He is a fighter, who never gives up
He will pull the trigger and throw the long ball

He's old yes but we all know in reality that we will be drafting a qb next year any way. so why not take a chance?

Longtimefan
10-27-2009, 11:14 AM
He has proven to be a good backup, surprisingly. He is not a solution at RT long term. He is not starters material. I would like to see them keep him around for depth.

Circumstances, some of which we are familiar, some of which we're not, has contributed to his shortcomings in the NFL. His weight problem is the one most highly recognized as well as publicized. However, when a player is selected what, # 4 overall in the draft (before his problems began) to suggest he's not starting material means the Bills had to be awfully confused. He may not now be the player he was drafted to be, and may not be our long-term slution, but with our situatin being what it is he's serviceable nontheless.

CRedskinsRule
10-27-2009, 11:19 AM
No, but I see the problems of the redskins and it's is squarely on the QB shoulders. We need a new attitude on this offense. Some HEART. What are Garcia's strengths.

He has excellent feet
He will get the ball out quick
He is a fighter, who never gives up
He will pull the trigger and throw the long ball

He's old yes but we all know in reality that we will be drafting a qb next year any way. so why not take a chance?

what qb in his right mind would sign with us right now with our protection issues.

Chico23231
10-27-2009, 11:22 AM
Agree that he is servicable at this time given our state of being the worst Oline in the league. The comment that he is not starters material on any other team other than ours is in context at this time, not years ago when drafted by the Bills. I believe alot of teams at the 4th pick back then would have selected him. Not faulting the Bills for their pick. But in general they are confused...

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