The line is quite offensive right now

F JC. He isnt improving, his mistakes are costing this team big time. We need a new QB next season. No more excuses for him. He has had 5 years. Bye Bye JC!!!!

Okay...name the QB who should come in here. Where does he come from? How do you acquire him?

I understand the frustration. I'm to my breaking point with JC, but there's not one quarterback in this league who could look great behind this line, so you better address that as well. And if you want to spend a #1 pick on a QB and have him turn into David Carr behind this GD line, then you're going to be saying F Snead, Bradford, McCoy, Tebow, or Kolb in about 5 years too.

Simply amazing how bad this OL is. No running lanes at all, pass protection is shotty. This is going to sound bad because I have lots of respect for Buges, but man, this is starting to remind me of the OL we had when Spurrier was here. Campbell is past shell shock.

I find it hard to hate on Bugel when the talent simply isn't there. He's not a miracle worker.

I said it in the other thread. It's starting to look like 03 when it was open season on Ramsey. At least JC has some wheels, Collins might actually die back there.

Fingers crossed that Levi Jones can prove to be a good stop gap LT that can be a solid starter for 2-3 years at the least. We should know by the end of the year whether LT is a need or not. Dockery will likely be back at LG and I don't have a problem with that.

So that leaves center and the right side of the line. Is it possible to get 3 new starters in here or am I dreaming?

The play of the OL so far this season has made just about every member of this board look like the finest GM's in the NFL. Everyone here, for quite some time now have been clamoring for O-lineman, our pleas have fallen on death ears, and what we're seeing now is the result of that negligence.

Right now, it is what it is, there's no help available until we're in better position to address the need.

I wonder how bad JC's ankle is he was limping pretty bad? OL is top priority in the offseason and we need them to come from the draft not FA get younger there then worries about the QB.

I find it hard to hate on Bugel when the talent simply isn't there. He's not a miracle worker.

Don't get me wrong, I agree. But unfortunately, it does look bad on Buges because you know the front office expects miracles from him. I agree though, when you have no talent to work with, how do you expect to have them playing past expectations?

Okay...name the QB who should come in here. Where does he come from? How do you acquire him?

I understand the frustration. I'm to my breaking point with JC, but there's not one quarterback in this league who could look great behind this line, so you better address that as well. And if you want to spend a #1 pick on a QB and have him turn into David Carr behind this GD line, then you're going to be saying F Snead, Bradford, McCoy, Tebow, or Kolb in about 5 years too.

Ive been with JC for 4 years and he has not improved. The Oline we knew about last season and nothing was done. There is no way we give JC an extention, even when he has time in the pocket, he cannot make a play or it too scared to throw the ball. He has shown no leadership skills and no ability to make guys around him better. BYE BYE JC!! Like it or not he is gone, you seriously think Snyder is giving him mo money? I completely agree with building the Oline, I have been screaming it since last year. We need 3 new starters, get one through FA and try to get couple in the draft first and second rounds. Im saying F Snead and Bradford now. Kolb would be a thought. I would support Hasselbeck coming in here for a couple years over JC.

Fingers crossed that Levi Jones can prove to be a good stop gap LT that can be a solid starter for 2-3 years at the least. We should know by the end of the year whether LT is a need or not. Dockery will likely be back at LG and I don't have a problem with that.

So that leaves center and the right side of the line. Is it possible to get 3 new starters in here or am I dreaming?

If we spend a 1st on an OT, I would think he'd eventually be moved to LT, but yeah if Levi could hold that down in the meantime it would certainly make rebuilding easier.

I think 3 new starters is realistic, 1 in fa & 2 in the draft, assuming that high picks are used for o line. I just wonder if they won't use the 1st or 2nd on a rb. I would love to see CJ Spiller in b & g, but would hate to see him taken in the 1st.