The line is quite offensive right now

I get it. I know the O-Line is really important. Im just saying that a qb is more important than ONE O-lineman. What is the better combo, Joe Thomas blocking for Derek Anderson or the guy that replaced Tony Ugoh blocking for Peyton Manning?
O-line needs to be developed over time, we do need to invest in it. But while we have the shot to possibly get a QB of the future, let's take it. We can pick up O-linemen with other picks in the draft and possibly in FA, while that is unlikely to do with a QB. I do not believe our problems (on the O-line and elsewhere) can be fixed in one season. We need to build to the future, and the best single starting piece we can get to do that is a QB.

We're not ONE o-lineman away

we're 2-3 from formidable, 4 from baller

It all starts up front.

Simple as that, a new QB isn't going to solve anything until we can protect and open holes for the running game.
I agree. Eventually a WCO will open more to the pass, but our run isn't even respectable, that's why Rock got that 11 yard carry last night.

Mike williams is not an effective gaurd. Levi Jones might be an adequate band aid to one position. Two good draft picks with one to two good free agents is too much to bank on. We can't naturally assume we will hit on our players that we choose. Too many "what ifs" and not enough time to develop chemistry. It seems to be a one in a hundred shot. Realistically we can get an adequate O-line next year if we disregard all other positions, but would be only semi-fixing one of many problems.
You sure do have a lot of insight on this team that the rest of us aren't privy to.

Well, I sort of understand what he's trying to do, but if the argument is that a coach is responsible for putting players in a position to succeed, it's hard to argue that he's doing a good job.

You have Heyer, a decent RT who the team is trying to turn into a LT with little success. You have Rinehart, who is riding the bench for no really good reason, while Montgomery plays (terribly). You have Dockery and Rabach, who are the status quo at LG, and C, the common links on a bad line. And how much of the blame for Mike Williams should sit with him. Mike's been decent given the expectations, but that's not helping us win ball games.

Bugel shouldn't be expected to fix all the problems that are ailing us, especially when the backs are missing so many blocks, but this line is no better than it was 4 weeks ago, and that's a problem.

Is it Bugel picking who starts where? It's hard to say where any of the decisions come from in this organization.

It would help if the offense had audibles to begin with. Can't fault JC for that.
Agreed big time. You could see the blitz coming and not even a change in protection.. where the hell does that start? Is Rabach still calling the protection?

Sorry was out, yes agree more than 1 year to rebuild. Oline should be the first to receive attention in the rebuilding process. To your question of how to get a QB: Im not in favor of drafting one this coming up year, but I feel to effectively start a rebuilding process will be with to rid our offense of players who has leveled out, peaked, stagnated etc...whatever you want to call it over last several years starting with the guy who has the ball in his hands the most, JC. There will be vets availible and I prefer somebody else at this point. Some guys just need a change of scenery...JC may be that way as well...so while we both understand this offense may take a couple years, getting a vet or guy who hasnt succeeded (D. Anderson, Brady Quinn, etc.) to get under center I wouldnt see as taking a substantial risk (unless we give a stupid ass contract). I just cant deal with JC anymore, im officially done with him. But before we can get there we need a new GM and an established NFL coach.

This is where we disagree, but I can understand where you're coming from. I don't think the Skins should draft a QB high or trade picks for one. If there's a guy out there, go get him. However, if he's not proven, I would force him to compete with Colt and JC (who isn't a free agent under the new system).

I have no problem with replacing Jason with the future of the team or just a holdover to get us through rebuilding, but I'm not really in favor of change for the sake of change. I think that if you believe you can upgrade the QB position in the offseason without sacrificing anything, you have to do it, but I don't think you can go get Vince Young or a Jamarcus Russell type and think that everything is solved. If those are the options (they may be) then keeping JC and having him compete with Campbell might be the best option.

^please no Vince or Jamarcus, def someone else. Agree to disagree, but fully supporting the Rebuilding Effort as well. HTTR

This is where we disagree, but I can understand where you're coming from. I don't think the Skins should draft a QB high or trade picks for one. If there's a guy out there, go get him. However, if he's not proven, I would force him to compete with Colt and JC (who isn't a free agent under the new system).

I have no problem with replacing Jason with the future of the team or just a holdover to get us through rebuilding, but I'm not really in favor of change for the sake of change. I think that if you believe you can upgrade the QB position in the offseason without sacrificing anything, you have to do it, but I don't think you can go get Vince Young or a Jamarcus Russell type and think that everything is solved. If those are the options (they may be) then keeping JC and having him compete with Campbell might be the best option.

We could draft o-line in the 1st and 2nd rounds and then go QB in the 4th round. What do you think?

We could draft o-line in the 1st and 2nd rounds and then go QB in the 4th round. What do you think?

That sounds like the plan. Another scenario would be to trade down and also get a 3rd or 4th rounder.

That sounds like the plan. Another scenario would be to trade down and also get a 3rd or 4th rounder.

Good idea!