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The Goat
10-27-2009, 10:19 PM
It would help if the offense had audibles to begin with. Can't fault JC for that.

Word. I didn't mean to put it on Jason. It's the scheme.

GridIron26
10-27-2009, 10:25 PM
This is a really, really good thread IMO...lots of quality discussion in the midst of a ruined franchise so props to everyone. I'm never again assuming lil D will learn a lesson and make solid decisions as the real GM, but if luck has it we somehow start down the right track this is what I think it should look like:

Build our offense through the draft next year. We likely will have the 4 or 5 overall pick as St. Louis, KC, Tampa, Detroit and ourselves suck the bottom of the NFL aquarium in '09. We should get the 2nd best overall LT there as a no-brainer pick. That high 2nd round pick is perfect for a starting center...Rabach must never play again after this season. The best RB available in the 3rd rd makes sense, but if there's another quality o-lineman available I would grab him and wait on the RB.

I'm assuming we bring in a legit WR coach to develop our investments at the position. The next big question mark is QB. I definitely think Jason is gone after this season. I would like to see us bring in the best veteran QB available to compete w/ Colt for the starting spot. I definitely wouldn't invest a high draft pick there...just doesn't make sense.

We don't have the 3rd pick cuz we used it up for Jarmon.. However, it's proving to be right choice so far..

Beside, pretty much I agree with you.. Although I would want retain Campbell and still sign someone else to push for #1 spot.. It's better to have more than two choices..

The Goat
10-27-2009, 10:32 PM
We don't have the 3rd pick cuz we used it up for Jarmon.. However, it's proving to be right choice so far..

Beside, pretty much I agree with you.. Although I would want retain Campbell and still sign someone else to push for #1 spot.. It's better to have more than two choices..

Yep I forgot about Jarmon...jeez hope he can replace Daniels next year.

Pocket$ $traight
10-28-2009, 01:08 AM
Yep I forgot about Jarmon...jeez hope he can replace Daniels next year.

Hasn't he already done this? The guy is everywhere.

Pocket$ $traight
10-28-2009, 01:25 AM
Pocket$ Straight:

If Williams and Jones are so competent, how come 32 NFL teams allowed them to languish in a state of idleness for several years? Are you telling me that no team in the league faced serious problems with the competency of its OL in the last three years? Or maybe the Skins' FO was the only organization smart enough to track down these lost souls?


These guys were unmitigated busts as high draft pick. Now MAYBE they have reformed some of their habits such that they MIGHT become serviceable NFL players. But to see these guys turning into foundation pieces for an NFL team probably requires a visit from the Skins' Fairy Godmother.

Let me summarize my previous posts.

1st pick next year - Premier tackle
2nd pick next year - Best available lineman T G or Center

Free agency - Best O-line available preferably a tackle and possibly even another starter C or guard

How was Levi Jones a bust? He started roughly 90 games and was on a few good teams. Plus he earned an extension. You cannot intelligently comment on Jones until he gets on the field. He can't be worse than Heyer who almost lost JC for a season his rookie year, was dogshit last year and continues to be dogshit.

Williams is in the bust category but I see him more as depth and possibly RG. He has been playing better recently btw. He looks a lot better than Heyer. Why did 32 teams pass on him? Because he was 450. No one expected him to get to his current state.

skins89moss
10-28-2009, 01:25 AM
If we spend a 1st on an OT, I would think he'd eventually be moved to LT, but yeah if Levi could hold that down in the meantime it would certainly make rebuilding easier.

I think 3 new starters is realistic, 1 in fa & 2 in the draft, assuming that high picks are used for o line. I just wonder if they won't use the 1st or 2nd on a rb. I would love to see CJ Spiller in b & g, but would hate to see him taken in the 1st.

Wow I was thinking same on CJ Spiller. Man maybe get him in the 3rd or 4th not sure he last that he would last that long. We have to draft O-Line because we can not run or pass protect with this group now.

skins89moss
10-28-2009, 01:53 AM
While some have paused to make mockery of Williams, when you look at what we have as far as OL is concerned, I'm rather glad he rounded into shape to be able to help us as much as he has. Without him we'd be in even worse shape.

Some thought he would not play at all this season.

I agree Mike Williams is getting his 1st taste of action in almost 2 1/2 yrs. He worked his butt off to lose the weight and now he is getting into game shape. He maybe just the guy we need for next season after this season. if he can stay healthy and keep the weight down he for sure is a insuance policy for the RG or RT position.

skins89moss
10-28-2009, 02:03 AM
I don't remember ever getting a top 5 QB. Especially one we don't have to give up draft picks to get.

Do you not agree that a QB is a necessity to succeed in this league? How do you recommend we go about getting one? Stick with JC? That isn't working. Get a FA QB? Who that is going to be reliable?

Ok let me tell you this, if and when a team drafts a QB as a top 10 pick if he is a bust your franchise is set back for 3 to 4 years. Teams that spend high picks on QB tend to give them every chance to be the starter no matter how poor he plays IE.... JaMarcus Russell, Alex Smith, Brady Quinn, and David Carr. I say we draft a QB late in the 4th or 5th and try to sign Jackson(Vikings,Carr/Giants) or resign JC or 1 yr with a upgraded line.

tryfuhl
10-28-2009, 02:11 AM
I told y'all that Raback was on his last legs, and that he should've been moved to guard. I told y'all we should have draft Mack, Loadholt, Oher, and or Robinson. Oh you're stupid Tramp, huh, you don't draft a center in the first round. You mean you're not happy that we picked up a DE with our first and with our third next year? Chaz Reinhardt and Deb'n Clark are going to step up. Stretch Armstrong is going to pull through.

Priorities! I knew this was going to happen. I knew it. You think this is bad? Our defense can handle Filthy compared to what's coming. Wait until New Orleans and Dallas. eff it . . . .

You weren't the only one saying that.

tryfuhl
10-28-2009, 02:16 AM
This team has been doing what you suggest for YEARS!
we've only drafted qb 1st round 3 times since 1990 and JC was at the ass end of the round

I'm not saying that it's the answer though

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