The line is quite offensive right now

How many times did Campbell have to pick himself up off the ground last night?

How many times did Campbell have to pick himself up off the ground last night?

Excluding times when he ran into a sack or ran towards pressure or didn't step up into the pocket?

Everything else you stated is pretty obvious. JC isn't going to come back here and if he does, he won't start. However, you didn't answer my question: How do you get those guys? Is Hasselbeck a free agent? I honestly don't know. Do you have faith he'll stay healthy behind this O Line?

How do you get Kolb? What does it take? What do you think it would take to acquire him? If it requires draft picks, wouldn't they be better spent on the O Line?

I'm asking because there will probably be a lot of guys cut this offseason that people on this board will turn up their noses at, but the Skins might consider. I honestly don't have an answer for what they should do. Since Campbell will likely not be a UFA because of the uncapped year, it might be wise to keep he and Colt around to compete next year with a totally rebuilt O Line. If that happens, people will piss and moan because they'll probably lose again, but they'll be in a much better position to grab a QB and hit the ground running in 2011.

I'm of the opinion that this team will need much more than one offseason to rebuild and compete again.

I think one thing people need to consider is "Is one more season of Jason Campbell worse than one more season of this offensive line?" If the answer is "No" you still try to get a FA QB, but you really can't trade for one unless you somehow find someone to give you picks for some of the garbage on this roster.

Sorry was out, yes agree more than 1 year to rebuild. Oline should be the first to receive attention in the rebuilding process. To your question of how to get a QB: Im not in favor of drafting one this coming up year, but I feel to effectively start a rebuilding process will be with to rid our offense of players who has leveled out, peaked, stagnated etc...whatever you want to call it over last several years starting with the guy who has the ball in his hands the most, JC. There will be vets availible and I prefer somebody else at this point. Some guys just need a change of scenery...JC may be that way as well...so while we both understand this offense may take a couple years, getting a vet or guy who hasnt succeeded (D. Anderson, Brady Quinn, etc.) to get under center I wouldnt see as taking a substantial risk (unless we give a stupid ass contract). I just cant deal with JC anymore, im officially done with him. But before we can get there we need a new GM and an established NFL coach.

Quick stupid question. When teams are bringing the house like the Eagles did last night, aren't you supposed to counter with screen passes, quick hits (slants, etc), move the pocket around, draw plays, etc? Other teams seem able to scheme against poor pass protection/over-aggressive Defenses. What's our deal? First half, I didn't think the pass protection was all that bad, but second half it was criminal.

not backing JC or antying...but how do you have any pocket presence when your OL is getting beat and pressure is coming from all angles? He must be nervous turning his back to the defense knowing he is going to get rocked...

what's funnier is Cerrato said that he handed Jim Zorn a playoff team earlier today on the radio...what a JOKE!

and one more thing...they need to either fire zorn now...or let him be the coach.

Quick stupid question. When teams are bringing the house like the Eagles did last night, aren't you supposed to counter with screen passes, quick hits (slants, etc), move the pocket around, draw plays, etc? Other teams seem able to scheme against poor pass protection/over-aggressive Defenses. What's our deal? First half, I didn't think the pass protection was all that bad, but second half it was criminal.

I'm bothered by this too, and I suspect the answer is twofold. First, our coaches, whether it's Zorn or Lewis, are terrible at making adjustments. I've said before Zorn may have the most genius gameplan in the world up to kick-off, once things start to inevitably unravel he doesn't adjust the calls wisely. Last night was the same story...like you said where were the quick slants, screens and RB dump-offs to punish the defense for sending the house? The second problem is we evidently don't run an offense that allows for adjustment at the LOS. Like they joked on ESPN last night Jason doesn't know what an audible is.

It would help if the offense had audibles to begin with. Can't fault JC for that.

This is a really, really good thread IMO...lots of quality discussion in the midst of a ruined franchise so props to everyone. I'm never again assuming lil D will learn a lesson and make solid decisions as the real GM, but if luck has it we somehow start down the right track this is what I think it should look like:

Build our offense through the draft next year. We likely will have the 4 or 5 overall pick as St. Louis, KC, Tampa, Detroit and ourselves suck the bottom of the NFL aquarium in '09. We should get the 2nd best overall LT there as a no-brainer pick. That high 2nd round pick is perfect for a starting center...Rabach must never play again after this season. The best RB available in the 3rd rd makes sense, but if there's another quality o-lineman available I would grab him and wait on the RB.

I'm assuming we bring in a legit WR coach to develop our investments at the position. The next big question mark is QB. I definitely think Jason is gone after this season. I would like to see us bring in the best veteran QB available to compete w/ Colt for the starting spot. I definitely wouldn't invest a high draft pick there...just doesn't make sense.

It would help if the offense had audibles to begin with. Can't fault JC for that.

An NFL offense without a full slate of audibles...what a great idea!

An NFL offense without a full slate of audibles...what a great idea!

Al Saunders understands. I don't however.

I can only imagine being a QB at the line of scrimmage thinking shit, we're gonna get blown up this play, and you can't do a thing about it.