Let's Give Jim Zorn Some Love!

Ok, each of you have said your piece. Let it go now and let's move on


You are right, moving on.

My response to the title: NO!

I'm convinced that success in this league is all about schemes and coaching. Just look at the broncos. Looking at their front 7 coming into the season, they without a doubt had the worst defense in football. Most of their starters were all crappy backups for other teams. Look at where they are now with Mcdaniels and Nolan. Enough said.

That song reminds me of this:

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One of the best scenes ever. Maybe not ever, but pretty good. Nice one.

My response to the title: NO!

I'm convinced that success in this league is all about schemes and coaching. Just look at the broncos. Looking at their front 7 coming into the season, they without a doubt had the worst defense in football. Most of their starters were all crappy backups for other teams. Look at where they are now with Mcdaniels and Nolan. Enough said.

On a completely different note...

Does anyone ever believe that writing "enough said" or "nuff said" or "thread closed" is going to end the discussion? Or that no one else can add more to the thread after their amazing point?

Not trying to single you at Skinster, just always wondered about that style comment.

We all know that the playcalling has been one of the many problems but I also like what this article says, if you haven't seen it, about the execution of the plays being the problem not the "play calling"
Jaws: Zorn's playcalling not Redskins' problem | ProFootballTalk.com (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/23/jaws-zorns-playcalling-not-redskins-problem/)

On a completely different note...

Does anyone ever believe that writing "enough said" or "nuff said" or "thread closed" is going to end the discussion? Or that no one else can add more to the thread after their amazing point?
Not trying to single you at Skinster, just always wondered about that style comment.

In answer to your question - Yes. Case Closed!

We all know that the playcalling has been one of the many problems but I also like what this article says, if you haven't seen it, about the execution of the plays being the problem not the "play calling"
Jaws: Zorn's playcalling not Redskins' problem | ProFootballTalk.com (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/23/jaws-zorns-playcalling-not-redskins-problem/)

The funny thing is, when the plays are executed perfectly, no one complains about the play calling even though the play calling may not be a perfect balance of run VS pass. I remember several years ago, maybe back in the Norv Turner days, the Tampa Bay Bucs kept running the same running play up the middle, over and over again against us. Why? Because it worked each and every time. My point is, when the execution is not there, then the play calling is at fault. Now, I'm not saying Zorn's play calling has been great, because he has called some plays that I thought were not the right plays to call at that particular time. But, last year Zorn looked to be brilliant because
the execution was there.

So, do we still put the blame on the coach at that point or is it the player's fault?

So, do we still put the blame on the coach at that point or is it the player's fault?

Good coaches get players to execute plays well.

Good coaches get players to execute plays well.

Fair enough and I agree with you. Like I said before, Jim Zorn is not head coach material at this point, but I do think he has backing of the players in the locker room.

Let me ask this....I thought Zorn only had 2 yrs. Somewhere I thought I read he had this yr and one more yr? Which would be a third yr. If so.....Since DS doesn't want to cut Zorn cause he would have to pay him ....could DS demote him to QB coach and bring in a new GM and HC? and if Zorn doesn't like it he can leave?