PFT Rumor - Joe Gibbs is Coming Back

Because Parcells has done it as a coach and he's doing it right now as GM in Miami. I don't hear jack about Parcells in Miami, but his influence and strategy is evident. He has depth at the key positions and he has a head coach that is competent at the NFL level.

If Gibbs came here, it would be all sizzle and no steak. Great for ratings, but I fear little production.

Parcells is not the GM in Miami. He's the VP of Football Operations. Jeff Ireland is the GM... hired by Parcells.

I think a lot of people aren't clear on what Parcells role is there. He's not the GM and he's not as hands on as people think.

Gibbs would play the same role here. Hire a GM, help hire a coach. It's not a very hands on, down and dirty position. It's just an overseeing of the football ops more than anything.

I disagree. I think Gibbs is a so-so talent evaluator. And I have no evidence of him building any football franchises? During his first stint or his second stint. Sure, the company line would be Gibbs has no say in who's coming here and who's going. Do we really believe that?

And as far as him better than Vinny, that's not saying much. We don't need someone a little bit better than Vinny. We need a bonafide, kickass, successful GM. Anything short of that, ain't cutting it.


Well, we all do want an elite playoff team year in and year out. And true, in Gibbs I, Bobby Beathard was mostly responsible for finding the right players, as he should have been considering he was the GM. However, I am also applying what Gibbs has done in NASCAR to build championship racing teams. I am speaking on the premise of Gibbs being responsible for finding that GM, which I believe he has the smarts to find that perfect guy for that position, and I also believe someone like Joe Gibbs could find the right coach for us. After all, Joe Gibbs does know a thing or two about coaching in the NFL. And, Joe Gibbs knows a thing or two about being a Super Bowl Champion coach in the NFL. What does Vinny know about picking Head coaches? Apparently, not a lot! It has already been proven that Snyder and Vinny suck as choosing GMs and coaches, why not give someone who has been successful in the NFL a chance to make those choices? It is unfair to say Gibbs doesn't know anything about choosing head coaches or GMs. He hasn't been given the opportunity to do so yet. Let's not tunnel vision solely on player choice during his second stint. I think he also made some right choices during his time here as well.

Because Parcells has done it as a coach and he's doing it right now as GM in Miami. I don't hear jack about Parcells in Miami, but his influence and strategy is evident. He has depth at the key positions and he has a head coach that is competent at the NFL level.

If Gibbs came here, it would be all sizzle and no steak. Great for ratings, but I fear little production.


Gibbs hasn't done it as a coach? Hhhmmmm.....gee...who was coaching those Super Bowl teams of the 80's and early 90's?

I think you're getting very confused as to what a President of Football Operations does and what a GM does. The President helps to hire the GM and the Coach. The GM deals mostly with bringing in the players.

Parcells is not the GM in Miami. He's the VP of Football Operations. Jeff Ireland is the GM... hired by Parcells.

I think a lot of people aren't clear on what Parcells role is there. He's not the GM and he's not as hands on as people think.

Gibbs would play the same role here. Hire a GM, help hire a coach. It's not a very hands on, down and dirty position. It's just an overseeing of the football ops more than anything.


Didn't see your post but exactly what I was saying! +100

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What Gibbs is good at (at least I've seen it with his NASCAR team) is finding the right managers and delegating responsibility. I think he could play a wise role in finding the right General Manager, for example, to lead the team.

If anything though, Gibbs could go to bat for Snyder and tell Jimmy Raye (just to throw a name out there), "Hey listen, I'll vouch for him. This is a guy you can work for. He's got the Joe Gibbs Seal of Approval"

This dinner by the way in Charlotte, completely overblown. As it was told to me, it was a dinner function with many people there.

I think Gibbs has a network in NASCAR that allows him to know who to pick and who's up & coming. I dont think JG is plugged in to the NFL to know who the hot young talent is.

I think Gibbs has a network in NASCAR that allows him to know who to pick and who's up & coming. I dont think JG is plugged in to the NFL to know who the hot young talent is.

I wouldn't want JG picking our draft picks either. What I think would be best for Joe would be for him to pick a good GM. It's obvious that Dan cannot.

That makes me wonder . . . .

Question: From what it sounds like in the article, Joe wouldn't be making the draft or coaching decisions. He'd get a GM and leave most of the big choices up to whoever that might be. Is that what y'all got out of it?

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Parcells is not the GM in Miami. He's the VP of Football Operations. Jeff Ireland is the GM... hired by Parcells.

I think a lot of people aren't clear on what Parcells role is there. He's not the GM and he's not as hands on as people think.

Gibbs would play the same role here. Hire a GM, help hire a coach. It's not a very hands on, down and dirty position. It's just an overseeing of the football ops more than anything.

Okay, if that's the case then why do we need Joe Gibbs to oversee the player operation if he's not going to be hands on? Why bring him here at all? I would think there are other football minds who are more familiar with the current landscape of assistant coaches and GMs that are ready and capable to take the next step.

Joe Gibbs just seems removed and detached, until Danny calls him, from the day-to-day goings on of the NFL. I'm certain there's a flow of information and exchange that you're only privy to because you're plugged in. That's something you can't just jump in and out of and get real feel for.

I guess to make my point more clear, SmootSmack works for ESPN. I'll bet when goes on vacation and returns to work, all kinds of shit has gone on behind the scenes around the league that he's not up to speed on. And we're just talking about a week.

As far as Parcells not being GM, wasn't it his choice to cut ties with Jason Taylor and then bring him back into the fold? That sounds like GM to me.

the thing is snyder doesn't need gibbs to hire football people. there are guys out there that can do the job and all he has to do is pick up the phone.But, unless you count Gregg Williams, who was the last Snyder hire in any capacity who actually was capable of doing the role Snyder hired him for?

Tom Cruise?

Gibbs was a no-brainer hire at the time, and he'd be a no-brainer hire in this situation. Plus, it's something Snyder can't screw up, which is valuable.