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JoeRedskin 10-22-2009, 04:30 PM After hearing SS and SC's comments, I am more encouraged. I am betting that, as Matty said, the sticking points are not money or people oriented but committment/ lifestyle issues for Gibbs.
Given that DS and JG had such an amiable relationship previously, I wonder if "control" issues have anything to do with it at all (i.e. - "Danny, you're going to have to back off" "No way Joe, it's still my team"). I bet it all boils down to DS finding a way to get Gibbs to run the team w/out Gibbs being consumed by it again.
SouperMeister 10-22-2009, 04:57 PM Gibbs would be great in a CEO role without the additional burden of coaching. That is essentially his role in Gibbs Racing, and he has put together a fantastic team there. I wonder whether Snyder is offering Gibbs part ownership to make this happen? This is the best rumor in an otherwise dark season.
BigHairedAristocrat 10-22-2009, 05:39 PM Tip of the hat to you Mudge, you absolutely called it. Getting a little update on my end
Definitely not a done deal
Cerrato won't be part of this
Would prefer to stay based in North Carolina, it appears it would be more...wait for it...consultant based with the title of President than anything else. Bring in the GM and HC and then move aside on a day to day basis.
My ongoing joke about Doug Williams apparently might not be so far off as well according to these reports
Again, to reiterate nothing is imminent. Personally, I think nothing will happen. They'll talk but at the end of the day I say Gibbs stays where he is.
Thanks for the info Smoot. Can you elaborate a little more regarding what your sources said about Cerrato and Doug Williams.
I ithink your comment about cerrato could be interpretted a few ways:
- Cerrato will not be part of this organization in 2010, no matter what
- Cerrato will not be part of a Gibbs-run team
- Cerrato was not one of the sticking points (meaning he will be part of the team)
Also, please, please, please tell me that Gibbs wouldn't bring in Doug Williams as a GM. What on earth would make him any more qualified than Vinny to run this team?
KLHJ2 10-22-2009, 05:48 PM Gibbs brought Portis in.
I know this he brought in Williams too, but you cannot argue the amount of headaches he caused.
Besides this is just a theory I'm not saying it's 100%, but it is possible. I am more inclined to agree with Matty that not all of the sticking points may be related to personnel. I just would be able to fathom the ones that are not related to people because I wasn't in his position. To this day, nobody really understands what the structure exactly was when he was here. Without knowing that it is difficult to determine what peeved him. Going with what I sort of know, Portis was in his office an awful lot for different “semi- disciplinary” reasons.
KLHJ2 10-22-2009, 05:49 PM Let see (if we're guessing):
Sticking point 1: I get to stay in NC. Was a problem, now not as Danny desparate.
Sticking point 2: Vinny goes - Danny has an unnatural attachment to VC, still a problem.
Sticking point 3: Not a full time job - Danny wants his full attention. Stilll a problem as DS probably willing to say "work from your home, feel free to do other things but make the Redskins your primary focus" to which JG responds "no - if I make them my primary focus it will consume me. If it's my full time job, I will be unhappy not being in DC to control things and I am staying here with my family."
All plausible. Good thinking.
SmootSmack 10-22-2009, 05:51 PM It was kind of vague really. I don't think Cerrato will be part of any scenario from a football related decision making process, Gibbs or no Gibbs.
As for Doug Williams. Yes, he was mentioned as a possible GM. I don't know that he's quite ready for that yet. But he has worked his way up the ladder with the Bucs front office and his name carries a lot of weight with NFL players, which could go a long way.
JoeRedskin 10-22-2009, 05:54 PM Is Doug Williams the next James Harris? We could do worse.
OldSkoolSkin 10-22-2009, 05:56 PM Hey speaking of Gibbs and Williams, did y'all see where Clint Didier is running for the Senate in Washington state? bit.ly/v98pM
KLHJ2 10-22-2009, 05:58 PM Doug, black, brown, green, yellow, you're our General Manager.
wolfeskins 10-22-2009, 05:59 PM i say:
owner-dan snyder (UN-involved in football operations)
president-joe gibbs
gm-charley casserly
headcoach-to be determined (by gibbs and casserly)
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