Short memories from angry fans

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CRT3
10-15-2004, 10:37 PM
I wasn't trying to sugarcoat anything. I mean our record is what it is (1-4) 3 games behind the eagles (cellar of our division) and we're only 5 games into the season. We have a offense that can't move the ball. Our special teams continues to be outplayed. A lot of penalties, bad replay challenges, poor clock management, and turnovers that at this point in the season we're not able to overcome.

My point was that Gibbs is going to have problems adjusting. Twelve years away from the game has'nt helped him, thats obvious. But you can't argue his record, it speaks for itself as cpayne 5 has stated. And IMO you have to give a coach at least 2 seasons to turn a franchise around.
Last game we had 2 penalties and 1 turnover on a pass that made it to the 5. Our clock management and challenges for the Ravens game were excellent. Our offense can move the ball. Our special teams sucks. We lost the game cause we got beat. The defense could not stop the rush when it counted in the end of the game. We knew they were going to run but could not stop them. Overall we are competing and playing alot better then last year. HAve faith, the skins will turn it around.

CRT3
10-15-2004, 10:42 PM
Defensewins:
Much of the frustration on this board comes from the knee-jerk reaction of too many fans to take any trade or draft or signing by the Redskins and look at it so unrealistically that expectations cannot possibly be met. Yes, I know, that's what fans always do. But if you temper the reactions just a tad, you don't have to go into a depression when expecations are not met.

Look at the players on this team as if you were the GM of another team that thinks it is only a player or two away from a conference chammpionship or a Super Bowl championship. What Redskins' players would you be frothing at the mouth to add to your team? Don't hyperventilate here:

Receivers: None. Coles is far and away the best of this lot and he is not likely to be the guy to put a team in that state "over the top".

Tight Ends: None. Maybe - I said MAYBE - some day Cooley fits that description but not now. There are 16 NFC teams. As of this weekend he might be the 10th best TE.

Offensive Linemen: Jansen. That's it; that's the list. And Jansen isn't playing this year.

QB: None. No discussion needed here.

RBs: Portis. End of message. Anyone who begins to type out a response that has the word "Rock" or "Sultan" in it is dreaming.

Defensive linemen: None. Do not tell me how much better someone on this line is when compared to the Easter Island Statues who played there last year. None of these guys are difference-makers. None.

LBs: Arrington and Washington. If you already had three good linebackers on your team and thought you needed a 4th as a back-up to get over the hump, you could put Pierce on this list too. But Pierce is not the guy to carry a team to the Super Bowl.

DBs: Smoot (maybe) and Springs (maybe). Both guys play hard and both can have good games but I'm not sure they are guys other teams would be frothing at the mouth to sign.

Safeties: None. Not even Ade Jimoh. Sean Taylor has potential but sadly for Redskin fans this year, "potential" means he hasn't achieved anything yet.

So, you have a 53 man roster and on that squad you have about 4 guys that other teams ought to go after with gusto given the chance and another 4 or 5 who would not be bad guys to add to an already good team. That's why the team in 1-4.

And the reason it hurts a lot of folks so much is that they drank the Kool-Aid when:

Ramsey had a good game last year and then they anointed him as the 2nd coming of John Unitas and

Chris Samuels went to the Pro-Bowl even though he wasn't really that outstanding and

Sean Taylor intercepted two passes in an exhibition game from a QB and to a receiver who may never take a snap in a real game and

Bruce Smith/Deion/Jeff George brought their gaudy stats from long ago to town.

If I were a GM on another team I would go after
Ramsey, Coles, Gardner, McCants, Cooley, Samuels, Thomas, Dockery, Hall, Arrington, Washington, Pierce, Spriggs, Smoot, Taylor, and most importanly Coach Gibbs. Sorry Dude you are wrong

That Guy
10-16-2004, 05:37 AM
i don't think anyone would be going after dockery... not as a #1... same for gardner and mccants...

BIGREDSKINFAN63
10-17-2004, 04:45 PM
i would offer the raiders a late 4th or 5th round pick for jerry rice.the recievers on the team now could learn a whole lot from that man.he could also add a new wrinkle to 3rd and 5.

monk81
10-17-2004, 05:19 PM
No doubt DW, I just think the anomosity comes from our utter incompentensy of our offense, and where the blame lies, sorry for stating the obvious. :)

Yes, we lost some very close games, in some games the team GAVE THE GAMES AWAY.......but when you see the way this Redskin offense is playing it's painful to watch...........and that's what makes us mad...:mad:

But in Joe Gibbs I trust....I know the loss of Jansen was HUGE but when I see the same stupid play calling in the red zone it makes you want to .........
:frusty:

That Guy
10-17-2004, 05:28 PM
rice would hate it here, he's pissed off cause he's not getting the ball... here he'd be the slowest WR on the team... if he wanted to teach, he has plenty of guys to mentor in oakland, that's just not his deal.

no thanks.

SKINSnCANES
10-17-2004, 05:38 PM
I think Gibbs will make a lot of changes during the bye week. its been a while since hes done it but your cant argue that we are most discipled

SmootSmack
10-17-2004, 05:40 PM
When did bye weeks start? Gibbs never had that his first time around did he?

SKINSnCANES
10-17-2004, 05:46 PM
i thought they have had it for a long time, I assume they had bye weeks before

MTK
10-17-2004, 07:53 PM
Yeah I'm pretty sure they had byes back during Gibbs' first run, I even remember one year where there was 2 byes per team

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