Reputation of Sherman Lewis- our new play caller

I don't get how you make the leap from how/if someone else was approached to 'that's how they are going to treat the next coach'. As far as I know, Snyder has treated all of his coaches in the same manner. Turner, he berated and fired publicly. Schotty, he challenged and fired. Spurrier resigned with little resistance. Gibbs retired. Zorn is clearly a lame duck and a conversation was had. How is that a precursor to future behavior?

I don't really see anything wrong with asking your preferred choice, 'Is there a circumstance that you would come and take over in season?' It's not like they were negotiating contract terms while Zorn is putting together the gameplan. I'm not a big Snyder guy but he gets shredded for everything, even if it's not a big deal.

I think it's a big deal that he offered someone a job that was filled at the moment. I know the NFL is special but there still is a professional accumen that is expected when dealing with people.

If you're telling me that I should expect that Snyder has none, then I'd say you're right. I'd also say that would effect the level of desire and the overall quality of the coaches that come to Redskins.

I know real life examples don't work for the likes of the NFL but on a human level...If you heard that your job was offered to someone else when you currently were on the clock, you'd probably be a little put out.

Gruden even remarked on it. He distanced himself from any talk of him taking over because it was unethical.
Jon Gruden distances himself from Redskins, Louisville coaching jobs - The Huddle: Football News from the NFL - USATODAY.com (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2009/10/jon-gruden-distances-himself-from-redskins-louisville-coaching-jobs/1)

If Snyder looks bad it's because his reputation precedes him and it is certainly warranted.

Professionally speaking, people don't deal with owners/managers who work like that because that is how you'll be dealt with when it's your time to go.

Playcalling might be better, but it all boils down to execution. Zorn might not be a good play caller, but still the players should be able to execute them no matter what is called.

If the D knows that your going run a stretch play ever 1st down, your not going to be sucessful.

Sherman Lewis
Green Bay Packers Offensive Coordinator1992-1999
Minnesota Vikings Offensive Coordinator 2000-2001
Detroit Lions Offensive Coordinator 2003-2004

He cant be worst than Zorn.....he has called plays before!

Sherman Lewis
Green Bay Packers Offensive Coordinator1992-1999
Minnesota Vikings Offensive Coordinator 2000-2001
Detroit Lions Offensive Coordinator 2003-2004

He cant be worst than Zorn.....he has called plays before!

Here's real insight of Lewis' history.. Doesn't look real good..

washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/19/AR2009101903354.html)

Is there any way people can wait to lambast this move until we see the end result. JZ's problem has been that he doesn't seem responsive and reactive to the defenses. He has his plan and pushes execution. I am very hopeful that a man who was in football his whole life and crafted successful offenses, can come in take our parts and maybe give us the spark that we all want to see. Certainly if our offense can make ANY strides, our D will have more of a chance to take over game.

Is there any way people can wait to lambast this move until we see the end result. JZ's problem has been that he doesn't seem responsive and reactive to the defenses. He has his plan and pushes execution. I am very hopeful that a man who was in football his whole life and crafted successful offenses, can come in take our parts and maybe give us the spark that we all want to see. Certainly if our offense can make ANY strides, our D will have more of a chance to take over game.

You need to stop giving this front office the benefit of the doubt. Just because they're making changes doesn't mean there will be a different result. That's how they've been fooling everyone in the offseason. Buying expensive free agents and teasing fans into thinking they'll be different.

This front office deserves all the doubt they've garnered. Things aren't going to change because they've tinkered with the team. They're not qualified to be making any adjustments to an NFL team so there's not much to expect here.

I'll wait to see how it turns out but it's going to be with cautious pessimism.

Does it matter? Lewis will call the plays for the Eagles game and Zorn will be fired. Lewis will be named Intrim HC for the remaining part of the season. He'll get an interview to satisfy the Rooney rule and DS will bring in some GM, who will decide on a HC maybe with DS's persuation and everyone of the coaching staff will be cut. New blood brought in and players evaluated for the future of the team.

My gut feeling.
I'm diggin that dude..

This may be old news but when we spoke last about this topic it was wild rumor. This now has been confirmed as truth.

Most the things we speak about on here are basically what ifs because we don't really know what the front office does behind closed doors but this affirms that they committed this action during this offseason.

I think it speaks volumes about what they plan to do this offseason and how they plan to structure the future front office...with or without Vinny.

It also speaks about how they are going to treat the next coach who comes to DC. They offered a job to someone without first having a vacancy. If that is no big deal to you then you're probably not one of the perspective coaches for the Washington Redskins because they'd probably give this some thought.

Sources: Mike Shanahan Turned Down Redskins Coaching Job -- NFL FanHouse (http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/10/19/sources-mike-shanahan-turned-down-redskins-coaching-job/)

I guess I'll ask the same question here that I asked in another thread. What is so true now that we didn't know two weeks ago?

You need to stop giving this front office the benefit of the doubt. Just because they're making changes doesn't mean there will be a different result. That's how they've been fooling everyone in the offseason. Buying expensive free agents and teasing fans into thinking they'll be different.

This front office deserves all the doubt they've garnered. Things aren't going to change because they've tinkered with the team. They're not qualified to be making any adjustments to an NFL team so there's not much to expect here.

I'll wait to see how it turns out but it's going to be with cautious pessimism.
I will keep giving them the benefit of the doubt. sorry. Look they took a shot with JZ to try and find the next diamond in the rough. He was a lump of coal. They gave him time to get something going. He wouldn't change. Bashing for bringing in a consultant is idiotic. Teams do it all the time. Hell the Colts re-hired two coaches who retired as consultants this year, yeah it was politics but whatever. Look everyone HATES where we are this season, but the Pure hatred/angst against Snyder is ridiculous. People would have been Lambasting JKC when Pardee was our coach, and switched to Gibbs who went 0-5. Don't say they wouldn't, I was only a teen but I remember the Post articles and JG having to go to Theismann to save his job. Losing is crappy. I hate it. But the FO is trying to stay within football parameters of in-season staffing changes. If they fired Zorn, people would be calling foul on Snyder, if they did nothing people would be calling foul, etc etc.

I just want to see this team win like everyone else, but I still will remain hopeful as they try to find the right in-season solution.

My biggest issue is that we don't know that Sherm can call it any better than Zorn, it's not like he's very well known for it. I would've preferred it went to Sherman Smith, at least he's been here for awhile and helps come up with the gameplan