The Myth of "It's all [insert QB's name here] Fault!"

Great post dgack.
However, keep in mind, most of us are VERY aware of the other problems some of which have been mentioned here. While I do think Campbell is a problem and have been vocal about it, I have been more vocal about what a horrible coach Zorn is.

Just so it's clear, the point of digging all this crap up wasn't to confirm the sky is falling. If anything, it's the opposite. Everyone is convinced this team is so horrible, but I don't think it really is. It's eerily on-par with Zorn's famous saying, "stay medium". This team is very medium.

Thing is, in the past, we haven't needed to be much better than medium in the passing department to make the playoffs.

The question is, how long does it take to "fix" a broken down-RB and over-the-hill O-Line? 3 years? 4?

I would agree 3 or 4 years, so lets get started. Yes we need 3 starters on the O-line. We need at least 2 new RBs, getting rid of Portis and one of the others. Receivers, bye ARE, we need an upgrade there; lets face it, that is an f-ing mess no one talks enough about over the last 10 years. So we are looking at a potential 5 new starters on offense. Now lets talk about QB. JC good bye, like it or not he will not be back....and personally he doesnt deserve to be. 6 new starters. We can do that over several years no problem. BUT do it through the draft and 1 or 2 intelligent, thought-out free agents. And GTripp, Heyer and Reinhart are not the future on the right side of the line (thank god).

dgack,
It is clear Campbell is not the sole person at fault here. More of the fault lies with the serious lack of a running game and an old and under performing O-line.
But reading the stats alone is very misleading.
In Zorn's offense Campbell throws mostly short/high percentage passes in the flats and WR screens. How many times have we had 3rd and 10 and Campbell completes a short pass and we get stopped on downs? That is going to look good on Campbell's stats as a completed pass and positive yards, but the result is failure for the team and winning.
I like Campbell, but he has yet to show he is a franchise qb.
Campbell does not connect on the long ball very often.
The stats also don't show he is slow in his decision making. That he sometimes locks on to his primary receiver with his eyes and is not known for looking off safety's.
His foot work is still sloppy, especially when he is throwing to his left, he seems to look uncoordinated when setting up to throw to his left.
I think is good that you bring up that Campbell is not the main culprit in all of this.

How difficult is it t comple passes when yor WR's are tiny and jammed at the line? Then you big WR's are slow and suck at running routes?

Yeah.. It's pretty diffcult.

dgack,
But reading the stats alone is very misleading.
In Zorn's offense Campbell throws mostly short/high percentage passes in the flats and WR screens. How many times have we had 3rd and 10 and Campbell completes a short pass and we get stopped on downs? That is going to look good on Campbell's stats as a completed pass and positive yards, but the result is failure for the team and winning.


I don't think it's misleading at all, because our scoring offense is still abysmal (which I pointed out).


I like Campbell, but he has yet to show he is a franchise qb.


Oh, I agree. The point I was making was that we historically haven't and should not NEED a franchise QB to win games playing "Redskin football".

It's funny, so many people were sick to death of "Old Man Joe" and "conservative playcalling" and "oh god, he's not going to try to run it up the gut again, is he??" but that's exactly what we are missing right now.

ANd what is the point? The whole team is a disaster, including Campbell. Trying to exonerate Campbell is a waste of time at this point. Why does everyone else outside of Skins fandom think this guy is average at best? JC is one piece on the field, but probably the most important one though. He still holds onto the ball too long and his decision making is suspect. Sounds like what a lot of folks were saying about Ramsey back in the day, and look what Gibbs did to him after what half a game? No one should be hating on JC, but no one should be saying this guy is our franchise QB either. Since you like stats so much here's one for you. Unless JC really lights it up with TD passes after the bye, good ole Gus will still be above him in the all time Skins passing TD stat. That's right bub!!!!!! Gus Frerotte knew how to get the pigskin in the endzone regardless of all his other faults!!!!!!! Give me Leslie Sheppard and Henry Ellard over any of these WR clowns we have now any day!!!!!!

Give me the line Gus had too. Shit we don't you give me the whole '95 squad back. My point is that the QB is only as good as the team around him, but conversely the QB still can make t hose around him that much better if he truly was special. You don't get that quality with JC.

Good God almighty, I'm not exonerating Campbell. Do people read before posting, or just see anything with the letters "QB" in it and auto-post their prepared position statement on why JC is [awesome | sucks] ??

ANd what is the point? The whole team is a disaster, including Campbell. Trying to exonerate Campbell is a waste of time at this point. Why does everyone else outside of Skins fandom think this guy is average at best? JC is one piece on the field, but probably the most important one though. He still holds onto the ball too long and his decision making is suspect. Sounds like what a lot of folks were saying about Ramsey back in the day, and look what Gibbs did to him after what half a game? No one should be hating on JC, but no one should be saying this guy is our franchise QB either. Since you like stats so much here's one for you. Unless JC really lights it up with TD passes after the bye, good ole Gus will still be above him in the all time Skins passing TD stat. That's right bub!!!!!! Gus Frerotte knew how to get the pigskin in the endzone regardless of all his other faults!!!!!!! Give me Leslie Sheppard and Henry Ellard over any of these WR clowns we have now any day!!!!!!

I'm going to go ahead and note that the quality of any posting on the Internet is inversely proportional to the number of exclamation points used.

Also, Campbell hasn't headbutted any concrete walls yet.

Give me the line Gus had too. Shit we don't you give me the whole '95 squad back. My point is that the QB is only as good as the team around him, but conversely the QB still can make t hose around him that much better if he truly was special. You don't get that quality with JC.

We didn't get it with Gus either so give it up already.