Green1
10-19-2009, 11:53 AM
There was a play in the Chief's game where they threw a swing pass, and CP ran slower that Todd Yoder with no gain on the play.
How many starting RBs are worse than Portis?Green1 10-19-2009, 11:53 AM There was a play in the Chief's game where they threw a swing pass, and CP ran slower that Todd Yoder with no gain on the play. jdot26 10-19-2009, 04:31 PM Why is everybody hating on cp.. since the team isn't doing good.. everybody is blaming are star players.. all we need is a o line.. think about it we do the same left strech everytime.. we hardly run to the right so everybody defense just crashes left.. y'all got to give him a break.. he lost his to best blockers but nobody is taking that into concitaration.. man the line we got now is blow avg...at best.. cp tries to go up the holes the line opes for 0.1 seconds.. but they close so damn fast cause the line can't sustain blockes.. but now everybody wants to turn they back on are running back.. y'all cats are silly talking about clinton portis lost it and need to get rid of him.. we need him.. y'all crazy Trample the Elderly 10-19-2009, 04:33 PM To hell with CP too, that Prima Donna hack. Monkeydad 10-19-2009, 04:34 PM Why is everybody hating on cp.. since the team isn't doing good.. everybody is blaming are star players.. all we need is a o line.. think about it we do the same left strech everytime.. we hardly run to the right so everybody defense just crashes left.. y'all got to give him a break.. he lost his to best blockers but nobody is taking that into concitaration.. man the line we got now is blow avg...at best.. cp tries to go up the holes the line opes for 0.1 seconds.. but they close so damn fast cause the line can't sustain blockes.. but now everybody wants to turn they back on are running back.. y'all cats are silly talking about clinton portis lost it and need to get rid of him.. we need him.. y'all crazy It's the nature of a lot of Skins fans...always optimistic before the season, then every regular season game is met with lunatic ranting and raving, win or lose...and in cases of losses, total destruction of the team is the only way to improve. Meks 10-19-2009, 04:39 PM to the initial moron-and-black post.... mike sellers blew the block, and 4get CP... ur acting like a disgrace to this board. sandtrapjack 10-19-2009, 05:08 PM Anyone who thinks Portis is a leading contributor to the bad start to the season is, I feel, sadly mistaken. When you compare what he did in the first 6 weeks of 2008 to this season, the only glaring difference is the total number of touches. In 2008 in the first 6 weeks Portis averaged 4.7 ypc. In 2009 in the first 6 weeks Protis averaged 4.2 ypc. Not a big difference there, if a RB is averaging over 4 yards per carry, I say let him play. No, the big difference in 2009 is that in 2008 at this point in the season, Portis had 30 more carries in 2008 after 6 weeks than he has in 2009. And last year at this point, everyone and thier grandmother already had Portis starting in the Pro Bowl. He had an awesome first half of 2008. Now I know 2009 has been a less than desirable start, but, from what I see the Redskins have never been blown out, and they have never really been so far out of a game that they needed to abandon the run to play catch up, which in most cases is the 4th quarter anyway. Keep feeding him the rock, and that will keep defenses honest and help the passing game out to boot. Slingin Sammy 33 10-19-2009, 05:37 PM Calling him a disgrace may be a bit of a stretch, he does have issues however, some fotball related and some not. I think some people are beginning to wonder if he's actually still worth the price or the time. BTW had he cut back inside Sellers block he would have scored. The fact he didn't is reflective of his lack of ability to change directions at full speed, a quality neccessary for a featured RB.Good post. Above is the key point. Two plays yesterday showcased this. The swing pass where he couldn't lose the LB and was tackled for no gain and the pitch play to the outside where the KC safety closed and rather than beat him to the sideline for 4 or 5 yds, CP tried to cut back, knowing he doesn't have the explosiveness the once had. CP is an old back in terms of carries. Right now he is simply a downfield runner, and good in pass-pro. The OL was average in run blocking yesterday, the holes were mostly there, aside from a couple break-downs. CP just lacks the second gear to get through the hole and explode into the seocnd level. We are not L or R run dominant, over the last 3-4 games the L/R balance has been there. For the Panthers and Chiefs we also have gotten away from running the Stretch on every run play. Portis is certainly not worth $8-10M / season in a capped or uncapped year. He will be gone after this year. BleedBurgundy 10-19-2009, 05:50 PM i really, really hope we make it to the uncapped year. We have so much dead weight to cut. Traditionally, work stoppage/strike years have been very kind to the Skins. This one could as well, though in a different way... SFREDSKIN 10-19-2009, 05:58 PM One thing I would like to see is, Mason being used more than 1 or 2 carries a game. I want him to take a chunk of carries, people say he's like another Portis, Betts but I disagree. I say him a chance and let's see what he can do, I bet people will be surprised. misterflak 10-19-2009, 06:11 PM I would argue that Portis' talent is bordering replacement-level at this point (think Correll Buckhalter)--the difference is that Portis is making $10m/season from 2010-2014 while a player of his current talent ability will run you, say, $2m in an open market. Given that he still has a good bit of trade value, that would be the first thing on my to-do list for the 2010 offseason. |
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