Looking at the rest of the season...

Zorn has lost all control of this team and despite all of his experience of playing in the nfl and in coaching, he isn't seasoned enough to change things around.

I was hoping that he was learning to be a head coach when he was with Seattle.

As far as snyder and cerrato are concerned, they seem to do well while judging talent on defense. But with offensive talent, they are horrible. Maybe instead of hoping that they get a traditional GM, which would probably be the best but unlikely decision, they should just hire someone in a position to evaluate and help with offensive players in the draft and free agency. And probably someone who can help with picking out an offensive minded head coach.

Zorn was never in control of this team. CSN post-game show put it best, nobody's going to want to coach here (Except for maybe Gruden) as long as Vinny and Cerrato continue trying to think they can out coach the coach.

Well said. I will be a much more patient fan if I saw this shift toward stockpiling picks and building quality depth through the draft.

I agree with you. The problem is there is no more patience to be had...as we have been saying this for how many years now!??

I hope I wake up in the morning and espnews has a zorn is fired news flash

I hope I wake up in the morning and espnews has a zorn is fired news flash

Next week. I would like to wake up and hear that Vinny resigned or got fired, that's even better news

I hope by tomorrow the whole roster is gone. It's time to blow the whole thing to pieces and start over. Anything less is ridiculous.

Well said. I will be a much more patient fan if I saw this shift toward stockpiling picks and building quality depth through the draft.

Agreed. I would add the necessity to coach our young players better. If the young ones that we do have on the OL and in receivers were developed into competence, our offense could be pretty good. Instead it seems like the rookies don't develop. It is not enough to draft 'em - you must train them, too.

F the Skins fcking awful make me sick and sad to be a fan

Agreed. I would add the necessity to coach our young players better. If the young ones that we do have on the OL and in receivers were developed into competence, our offense could be pretty good. Instead it seems like the rookies don't develop. It is not enough to draft 'em - you must train them, too.

It seems like if they're not ready to start when they get here, they never will be. I'm definitely not sold on our staff. I wonder if any of our offensive coaches could fill the same position on any other team?

nana na na, nana na na,

hey, hey, hey

goooodbye.

seasons done folks. Sorry your reality came so late after holding out so much hope. Glad you could join the few folks whose reality already was brought to them. By the way....do we play the Titans this yr? hate to not add all the teams with losing records getting a chance to beat us.

It seems to me there are two different scenarios that we'll likely see play out. On the one hand the Skins are a team that typically play up or down to the opponent, so it's possible that while we don't win many more games we keep the scores relatively close. In the other scenario we see our Skins get blown out in at least half the remaining games, because 1) we face winning teams that play to win and 2) the problems on the oline can't be fixed any time soon and the offense just doesn't score more than 5-10 points/game through the rest of '09.

First of all I don't think the HC or starting QB will make much difference in determining which scenario is more likely, but nonetheless I think the outcome is really important and here's why: a season of blowouts likely puts as much pressure as possible on Snyder to make fundamental changes to the way he runs the Redskins, while a season of close losses probably allows him to maintain the same FO structure. Now, for those of us convinced the Snyder/Vinny FO situation is the root cause of our lousy predicament, it's actually pretty tempting to hope the little man in the owner's box is forced into giving up the reins, firing his weird little toady, and handing the team over to the best GM willing to take the job.

Discuss...

I am so sick of this myth that I could throw up whenever I hear it mentioned. How could we possibly play down to anyone? We are the definition of a bottom feeder. We are not being upset week after week by lesser teams. We are getting beaten by teams who are better than we are. That's why they play the games - to find out which team is better.

Detroit is better than we are. Carolina is better than we are. KC is better than we are. And every one of those teams is absolutely terrible. What does that make us?

The Redskins have just gone through a five game stretch that just might represent the easiest schedule in the history of the NFL, and we only won two of those games! I've been a Skins fan for over fifty years and, to tell you the sad truth, this is the worst offense I have ever seen on a Redskins team.

So that's where we stand. We have a good defense and, to go with it, we have the absolute worst offense I have ever seen on a Redskins team. Put the two together and we are a bottom dwelling team. We do not play down to the competition because there is no down from where we live. We live in the same level of the food chain as St. Louis, Detroit, Tampa Bay, Carolina, and Kansas City.