The Collins Sighting

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warriorzpath
10-18-2009, 08:38 PM
I don't really care about what you don't care about. The point is, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Campbell will probably start next Monday night.

You say I have no idea what I'm talking about after you saying that Collins looks lost and there was a dropoff in offensive production after he came in. Man...

wordsmithgk
10-18-2009, 08:40 PM
I think it doesn't matter who the qb is and i think this game showed that. The problem is the design of the offense itself. It does not maximize the talent of the players. The players are not given an opportunity to be successful. It is a poorly conceived and ineffective gameplan week in and week out.

GTripp0012
10-18-2009, 08:41 PM
You say I have no idea what I'm talking about after you saying that Collins looks lost and there was a dropoff in offensive production after he came in. Man...There was a dropoff in offensive production. Sort of. Portis just happened to have his longest run in four years while Collins was in there. Of course, Todd couldn't get us into the end zone.

I'm ever grateful for the magical run he took us on two years ago, but he's a career long scrub outisde of those four games. Campbell might not ever develop into anything more than he is now, but the comparison is completely ridiculous.

redskinsgirl
10-18-2009, 08:41 PM
Collins is a mere band-aid over a gaping wound.

There are problems far larger than the QB situation going here and neither JC nor Collins nor effing Tom Brady could fix it.

... Okay maybe Tom Brady.

I agree.

GTripp0012
10-18-2009, 08:42 PM
I think it doesn't matter who the qb is and i think this game showed that. The problem is the design of the offense itself. It does not maximize the talent of the players. The players are not given an opportunity to be successful. It is a poorly conceived and ineffective gameplan week in and week out.I really think that this is correct. We were getting production from the QB position, but not winning. Taking that production away isn't going to make our offense particularly more inept. We have to learn how to win with defense, because we haven't been able to do that in two years.

warriorzpath
10-18-2009, 08:43 PM
There was a dropoff in offensive production. Sort of. Portis just happened to have his longest run in four years while Collins was in there. Of course, Todd couldn't get us into the end zone.

I'm ever grateful for the magical run he took us on two years ago, but he's a career long scrub outisde of those four games. Campbell might not ever develop into anything more than he is now, but the comparison is completely ridiculous.

The comparison is ridiculous because Campbell should be much farther along then he is now. The comparison shouldn't be this close right now.

53Fan
10-18-2009, 08:44 PM
Collins is a mere band-aid over a gaping wound.

There are problems far larger than the QB situation going here and neither JC nor Collins nor effing Tom Brady could fix it.

... Okay maybe Tom Brady.

EXACTLY. Too numerous to mention.

Beemnseven
10-18-2009, 08:44 PM
I think it doesn't matter who the qb is and i think this game showed that. The problem is the design of the offense itself. It does not maximize the talent of the players. The players are not given an opportunity to be successful. It is a poorly conceived and ineffective gameplan week in and week out.

You know, it doesn't even look like they gameplan -- it looks like Zorn is just winging it.

GTripp0012
10-18-2009, 08:45 PM
The comparison is ridiculous because Campbell should be much farther along then he is now. The comparison shouldn't be this close right now.Sigh. I agree.

Any other team with our defense could win win Jason Campbell though. The number of offensive personnel and coaching moves that have contributed to the current product is remarkably disappointing.

warriorzpath
10-18-2009, 08:47 PM
And whether or not, he got lucky- Collins got points from this offense. And there's another negative trait, Campbell's not lucky. I don't know if you can attribute that to him or not.

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