The Collins Sighting

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tryfuhl
10-19-2009, 01:29 AM
I think it’s clear to everyone that the main problem on the field (excluding Zorn and DS) is the O Line but to say that TC didn’t do any better than JC is I think missing the point. He did as well as JC after more than a year of being the second string with little chance of practice with the starting offense. Let’s get real hear TC must benefit from a weeks practice with the starters and JC has had his chance. I doubt either will start next season but we can’t keep going on with JC, we seem to be getting worse, not better and we have to change something.
This is true; new system for Collins after being on the bench for so many years in a single system. At least you KNEW Collins was a backup.

tryfuhl
10-19-2009, 01:32 AM
Cameron and Saunders are from the Coryell, Gibbs, Zampese, Turner, Martz tree of offensive philosophy. I was on record saying that throwing JC into a WCO was a mistake, akin to shoving a square peg in a round hole. So now you want the FO to go back to the Coryell philosophy? What about continuity? Even if Campbell isn't here, weren't Kelly, Davis, and Thomas drafted with the WCO in mind?
Do you really believe that we only took Kelly, Davis, and Thomas because we thought that they'd be good in the WCO, or that it was even a significant thought in that draft process?

tryfuhl
10-19-2009, 01:36 AM
Zorn said Campbell was "a little late in hitting some things" and "inaccurate." Zorn did not make clear who his QB will be moving forward.

So we have to wait and see. Not that it matters,IMO neither will be here next yr. This was JC's chance to prove DS wrong, not entirely his fault but id say he didnt make a strong case for himself.
on the 980 postgame show (they interview him before presser, the presser I haven't watched yet) he said that he'd likely start JC next week, but there are things to look at/decide, but likely JC

skins89moss
10-19-2009, 01:37 AM
I'm sure after being benched, Campbell is just as over the Skins franchise as they are with him.

Look for major trades and FA signing's this off-season. They'll end up having to blow up this team cause I doubt anyone wants to stay on this sinking ship.

Please no not the FA signings again. Dont we see that doesn't build a championship team. We need to build through the draft. Oh I guess than you need scouts that can evaluate talent. So lets just go out and over pay for some other teams FA that wants a big payday.

DBUCHANON101
10-19-2009, 01:42 AM
Why does everyone want Williams back? the defense is not the problem.

Green1
10-19-2009, 01:44 AM
trades possible? im thinking vince young, byron leftwich, jeff garcia something like that

Leftwich: Please no

tryfuhl
10-19-2009, 01:51 AM
You know.. during the game I was thankful for Collins coming in, to see what would happen. Maybe it's hindsight, but that was JC's game to turn back around. I know that you don't pack it in in Week 6, but it's definitely not like we were looking at a title run and we know that. Unless Campbell gets hurt he should stay in.

skins89moss
10-19-2009, 02:04 AM
Its sucks to see the the defense play their butts off and the offense doesn't do squat. Zorn needed to try something different and he went with putting Collins in the game. Well the results still sorry ass offense just had a few more passes down the field. Collins is a statue so if pressure comes and no WR are open he gets sacked. JC can escape the pressure but he is playing like a coward behind his dirty ass O-Line. Both QB's are terrible behind this line and this BS offense scheme.

skins89moss
10-19-2009, 02:11 AM
Ok so now the Collins supporters got their wish to see Collins in the game. To be fair he has not played in nearly 2 seasons so maybe if he gets more practice with the 1st team it could help him. But why use TC now when Zorn will be fired and JC won't be resigned unless its a 1 or 2 year deal. JC looks like a coward and doesnt want to stand tall in the pocket with his happy ass feet. Who could blame him with this dirty ass O-Line in front of him. I got a idea why not give the offense the week off because they can't do any worse than what we have seen thus far. They practice all week and they score 6 points what a joke.

redskins5044
10-19-2009, 08:24 AM
neither. wish we would have kept daniels to see what he could have done.

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