Playcalling

it definitely seems like they aren't spreading the field like they should be able to. the line gives us good time to throw the ball but how in the heck are we the only team that can't get open? is it the routes? i mean i don't know but the offense seems at times as bad as it's been. but here's to hoping we'll get it figured out!

skins!

It definitely is getting ugly, but the season is still pretty young. I think gibbs is being a little to conservative on the calls. He needs to cut down on the max protection and maybe use it on third downs and spread the field out. Anybody notice that a draw play might work pretty good against the rush.

I have faith Gibbs will get this thing fixed, but it's not as easy as just selecting a new playbook from the options menu and going from there.

The changes will be subtle week to week. It would help things progress more quickly if the players would just start executing each play to it's full potential. Missed blocks, drops, wrong routes, guys lining up wrong, etc.

i agree with what you said, you can't just start over with a new playbook, but you can add little wrinkles everyweek. It looks like all we need in these last four losses is one big play. execution is key, case in point, ladell betts missing that block on mr. reed. we are a team but indivuals need to step up and earn there keep.

If Gibb's philosophy is to establish the play action pass off of the running game and we can all see there is a serious problem with Portis and the running game. I have heard a lot of explanations given by Portis and people who want him to be successful and it doesn't ignore the fact that he is not cutting back against the line and creating something out of nothing. Now the O line can be responsible for not opening holes but what it hasn't given up is a lot of sacks. It's not Gibb's system that's the problem it's Portis's inability to read defenses and adjust to the game. Tiki Barber has made his line look better than it is simply by reading the defense and hitting the hole or cutting back against the line. We know Brunell is at the end of his career, but much more is expected of Portis ever since he busted through the hole on opening day. Unforturnately his fumbles have contributed greatly to at least two losses.

Sunra, the prob. with Portis reading block's, and finding holes is, I really haven't seen any holes to run through, it's not like he's missing them, regardless who's in at RB, they seem to be running into a wall every time, the worst offensives I have ever seen, did a better job opening holes than we have, the question is why?

Actually, I can agree with SUNRA somewhat on the Portis cutback issue. I reviewed the Baltimore game, and there were a few instances when Portis should have read the defensive alignment (accounting for number of blockers vs. defenders to each side) and seen the cutback prior to getting the handoff, but he simply followed the flow of the play right into a gaggle of tacklers.

However, I still see some issues with the run-blocking. It's difficult to discern whether the fault lies with the design or with the execution, but it's probably a little of both. There were several plays where the cutback lanes were shutoff by defenders like Terrell Suggs and Adalius Thomas flying in unblocked from the backside of the play. This was usually due to the attention being given to Ray Lewis. Blockers seemed to only be looking for him, rather than accounting for all of the talented defenders on that Baltimore defense. I know some offensive planners love to send multiple blockers at Lewis, but that philosophy (whether planned, or the result of a Ray Lewis-centered tunnel vision on the part of the blockers) is partly responsible for Portis's inability to find any running lanes either to the playside or the cutback.

Baltimore did a fantastic job of flooding the running lanes, though. There was nowhere for Portis to run for most of the game.

i disagree with SUNRA, tiki's success isn't because tiki is super awesome, its cause NY has a PASSING GAME that works... portis sucks cause brunell sucks so he has to run against a stacked deck, tiki doesn't, and hasn't had to for most of the year.

i disagree with SUNRA, tiki's success isn't because tiki is super awesome, its cause NY has a PASSING GAME that works... portis sucks cause brunell sucks so he has to run against a stacked deck, tiki doesn't, and hasn't had to for most of the year.

I know it's hard to give credit where credit is due, but Tiki is leading the league in rushing. That's why I mentioned him. Tiki has literally carried the Giants on his back. His rushing alone has accounted for half of the Giants offensive yards so far. Tim Carter was their best receiver this year and they lost him for the season. Let's see how well their passing game is with old ass Hillard and Toomer.

toomer got 1000 yards last year, he's not that bad, and looks like warner and shockey can make big plays too... thing is that offense has balance, and its easier to run past 4-6 people at the line than breaking past 9 defenders... tiki HAS had an awesome year though, no doubt.

It sounds like what goes around comes around. Whne it was Martyball everyone cried about being too conservative on O. Then OBC blew into town and everyone complained that the O was too wide open & free-wheelin'. Sounds like we are back to the Martyball complaints again.

The biggest problem with this team is that they are not that good. They have looked awesome on paper for about the last 3 seasons but when they hit the field they stink. What I think happened is that Snider/Gibbs way underestimated how bad these guys really are. Gibbs appeared to be the missing puzzle piece but as it turns out there are a lot of mismatched pieces in the puzzle box.