NFL Network: Zorn likely to survive the season

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Paintrain
10-16-2009, 09:01 PM
So here's something new, Steve Wyche of the NFL Network is reporting that Zorn will likely survive the regular season (NFL Videos: Wyche discusses Zorn's future (http://www.nfl.com/videos/kansas-city-chiefs/09000d5d81375b19/Wyche-discusses-Zorn-s-future)) mostly because of a lack of suitable person in house to take over duties.

He also says Samuels likely out all season and opponents who have broken down tape say our offensive woes are largely attributable to a bad roster/scheme fit.

I wonder if the bye week would be too early for Snyder to tell Zorn he's not coming back in '10 regardless or if he'd wait until late/after the season to do so.

skinsfaninok
10-16-2009, 09:10 PM
So here's something new, Steve Wyche of the NFL Network is reporting that Zorn will likely survive the regular season (NFL Videos: Wyche discusses Zorn's future (http://www.nfl.com/videos/kansas-city-chiefs/09000d5d81375b19/Wyche-discusses-Zorn-s-future)) mostly because of a lack of suitable person in house to take over duties.

He also says Samuels likely out all season and opponents who have broken down tape say our offensive woes are largely attributable to a bad roster/scheme fit.

I wonder if the bye week would be too early for Snyder to tell Zorn he's not coming back in '10 regardless or if he'd wait until late/after the season to do so.

I hope Zorn leaves ASAP! And as far as our 'Roster" or "Scheme" goes, that's obvious to see, JC is a BACKUP qb at best and our WR's don't fit a WC system, you need dependable players to actually catch everything that comes their way, and a Quick release from the QB, JC may have one of the slowest in the league. I loved what Riggo said about Zorn lol

Riggins lacerates Snyder, Zorn, Cerrato. Again. | ProFootballTalk.com (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/16/riggins-lacerates-snyder-zorn-cerrato-again/)

53Fan
10-16-2009, 09:26 PM
Interesting. I agree the team was built for Gibbs offense and Zorn is trying to make it work with the WCO. I think Zorn needs to make a few adjustments, (Blocking Schemes, etc.), but he still may be able to make this work. Obviously we need new personell but it's a little late for that right now. I wonder if this will be followed by more, "Zorn will last the season" articles?

Skinny Tee
10-16-2009, 09:29 PM
So here's something new, Steve Wyche of the NFL Network is reporting that Zorn will likely survive the regular season (NFL Videos: Wyche discusses Zorn's future (http://www.nfl.com/videos/kansas-city-chiefs/09000d5d81375b19/Wyche-discusses-Zorn-s-future)) mostly because of a lack of suitable person in house to take over duties.

He also says Samuels likely out all season and opponents who have broken down tape say our offensive woes are largely attributable to a bad roster/scheme fit.

I wonder if the bye week would be too early for Snyder to tell Zorn he's not coming back in '10 regardless or if he'd wait until late/after the season to do so.

Not to sound like a broken record but it's not Zorn's fault that he is versed in the WCO. Every pratfall this team has suffered has just been reflected on the front office.

It's so indictable that I don't see how there's not an outright perpetual protest in front of Redskins Park.

44Deezel
10-16-2009, 09:45 PM
So here's something new, Steve Wyche of the NFL Network is reporting that Zorn will likely survive the regular season (NFL Videos: Wyche discusses Zorn's future (http://www.nfl.com/videos/kansas-city-chiefs/09000d5d81375b19/Wyche-discusses-Zorn-s-future)) mostly because of a lack of suitable person in house to take over duties.

He also says Samuels likely out all season and opponents who have broken down tape say our offensive woes are largely attributable to a bad roster/scheme fit.

I wonder if the bye week would be too early for Snyder to tell Zorn he's not coming back in '10 regardless or if he'd wait until late/after the season to do so.

I've heard others make the case against the current personnel as it pertains to the West Coast Offense. The argument typically points out that there's a mismatch across the entire Offense - Campbell not ideal for the West Coast Offense, no pass catching RB, need lighter, more agile Offense Linemen, etc. Seems to make sense and the results back it up.

44Deezel
10-16-2009, 09:50 PM
Interesting. I agree the team was built for Gibbs offense and Zorn is trying to make it work with the WCO. I think Zorn needs to make a few adjustments, (Blocking Schemes, etc.), but he still may be able to make this work. Obviously we need new personell but it's a little late for that right now. I wonder if this will be followed by more, "Zorn will last the season" articles?

I always thought it was odd that they were keeping Gibbs running game to go along with Zorn's passing game. What they were doing in Seattle with Shaun Alexander seemed to work just fine. I never thought of him as a pass catching back, but he did catch 59 balls one year. When Saunders came to DC, I thought Portis would catch 70 plus balls like Holmes and Faulk. Never materialized.

tryfuhl
10-16-2009, 09:57 PM
The guys Danny wants are waiting till the end of the season to come back.

GusFrerotte
10-16-2009, 11:36 PM
So here's something new, Steve Wyche of the NFL Network is reporting that Zorn will likely survive the regular season (NFL Videos: Wyche discusses Zorn's future (http://www.nfl.com/videos/kansas-city-chiefs/09000d5d81375b19/Wyche-discusses-Zorn-s-future)) mostly because of a lack of suitable person in house to take over duties.

He also says Samuels likely out all season and opponents who have broken down tape say our offensive woes are largely attributable to a bad roster/scheme fit.

I wonder if the bye week would be too early for Snyder to tell Zorn he's not coming back in '10 regardless or if he'd wait until late/after the season to do so.


Wow Wyche said that? It isn't like a bunch of us guys in here haven't been saying that for the past several weeks. You have a system, you acquire guys that can play effectively in the system or can easily adapt to it. Zorn is trying to put square pegs into round holes. His entire WR corp is used(except for maybe Mitchell and the Pistol offense) was used to playing in a pro style verticle passing type offense in either the college ranks and with ARE and Moss, the pros. The depth is horrid on both sides of the ball. Like it or not if you want to see a consistent winner, it is going to take another 3-5 seasons. Hopefully 2010 is indeed a capless year and you can dump the trash and start anew.

GusFrerotte
10-16-2009, 11:43 PM
I've heard others make the case against the current personnel as it pertains to the West Coast Offense. The argument typically points out that there's a mismatch across the entire Offense - Campbell not ideal for the West Coast Offense, no pass catching RB, need lighter, more agile Offense Linemen, etc. Seems to make sense and the results back it up.


Our O linemen are old school Gibbs running guys. Samuels was really old school running with Norv, Marty and Stephen Davis. You know things are getting bad when you look back at the Norv era in a good light.

SFREDSKIN
10-16-2009, 11:48 PM
Interesting. I agree the team was built for Gibbs offense and Zorn is trying to make it work with the WCO. I think Zorn needs to make a few adjustments, (Blocking Schemes, etc.), but he still may be able to make this work. Obviously we need new personell but it's a little late for that right now. I wonder if this will be followed by more, "Zorn will last the season" articles?

Bottom line is Vinny is to blame for convincing Danny to try the WCO without the right personnel in place. We should have stayed in the air Coryell style offense instead of the WCO, Campbell is more suited for the Gibbs/Coryell offense. In my opinion I think the Gibbs/Coryell offense is a better offense, just look at Baltimore. I think NO runs Parcells type of offense.

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