Gray, Smith likely interim coach choices

So when you say a "football man" what exactly do you mean?

I can't speak for him, but I was thinking someone who would draft a tackle or a guard that can start and finish a game.

It's not Snyder's football acumen that I detest - I am with Smoot (I think) in that I believe our talent aquisition has not been that bad with the glaring example of the OLine.

It's Snyder's favoritism and pettiness that I think muddle the pie. If I'm the new coach, I would say - "Mr. Snyder, if I find my guys hanging out with you, calling you, or in any way interacting with you in a way I have not approved, I will cut them. Then you can pal around with them all you like. I don't care if its the QB you personally recruited during the FA signing period. Consider it a 'non-fraternization policy'. You want to speak to the team on occasion - hey fine as long as it is to the ENTIRE team and not just one or two guys."

Obviously, Snyder would never go for that.

Logic would say that Smith or Gray should be candidates until seasons end. But.....

Gray is a defensive coach and the defense is doing rather well right now. Smith is an offensive coach has only coached at the college level prior to here. Plus some say he does not know Zorn's offense well enough to call plays.

If a change is made logically it would be made at the break except for the fact that after the Detroit game DS ran/flew to Denver to speak with Shanahan. Reports were he was pissed off that we lost. If this is even remotely true then the best candidate to relieve Zorn would be a WCO guru who also studied under Holmgren. Which is why I think Gruden is DS's main choice. He's hoping that there will not be much of a scheme change and that the system can be tweeked enough to start winning games. Holmgren would be a good choice as well.

I know the NFC East has to be a major want on any Coach's wish list due to it being so hard but if I were Gruden I would also tell DS I would take the job so long as Cerrato is gone. Force DS to change up the front office as it should be or have fun trying to pick up any decent HC. Let him realize no one wants to work with Cerrato and no one wants him meddling with what they are trying to accomplish.

So when you say a "football man" what exactly do you mean?

How about someone that if available at least one of the the other 31 teams would want to hire?

It's not Snyder's football acumen that I detest - I am with Smoot (I think) in that I believe our talent aquisition has not been that bad with the glaring example of the OLine.

It's Snyder's favoritism and pettiness that I think muddle the pie. If I'm the new coach, I would say - "Mr. Snyder, if I find my guys hanging out with you, calling you, or in any way interacting with you in a way I have not approved, I will cut them. Then you can pal around with them all you like. I don't care if its the QB you personally recruited during the FA signing period. Consider it a 'non-fraternization policy'. You want to speak to the team on occasion - hey fine as long as it is to the ENTIRE team and not just one or two guys."

Obviously, Snyder would never go for that.

You're with me!

The favoritism element is not exclusive to the Redskins. So I don't expect that would change.

What we really need is more restraint. I think Snyder (and I mentioned this in another thread) will do whatever it takes to get whoever he wants, Vinny wants, Zorn wants, Blache wants, Bugel wants, Gibbs wants, Saunders wants, and so on. And to an extent that's great, you want an owner who will not hesitate to get you what you need.

At the same time though, someone has to be the "dad" here and be the disciplinarian. Then maybe this time next year we wouldn't be wondering how come Campbell, Duckett, Taylor, and Lloyd aren't here anymore...and neither are a first, second, three thirds, and fourth and a sixth

Welll......Gruden is a HARD ASS disciplinarian. I would welcome it, and I believe most of the players would? They would like to.....win
AND, those that cannot embrace a NEW winning attitude can GET THE F... OUT!
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The favoritism element is not exclusive to the Redskins. So I don't expect that would change.

I recognize there is some favoritism by owners. I mean, they spend millions of dollars on these teams and one of the perks seems to be hanging with the players. It just seems that, with DS, some of the players are given elevated status b/c they have the ear of the owner (clearly, this was also true of M. Vick). I suppose I would not be surprised that other owners have their "favorites" who coaches must treat differently for fear of the owner. Are there also owners (other than Crazy Al in Oakland) who are also play "unfavorites" the way Danny does?

You're with me!

The favoritism element is not exclusive to the Redskins. So I don't expect that would change.

What we really need is more restraint. I think Snyder (and I mentioned this in another thread) will do whatever it takes to get whoever he wants, Vinny wants, Zorn wants, Blache wants, Bugel wants, Gibbs wants, Saunders wants, and so on. And to an extent that's great, you want an owner who will not hesitate to get you what you need.

At the same time though, someone has to be the "dad" here and be the disciplinarian. Then maybe this time next year we wouldn't be wondering how come Campbell, Duckett, Taylor, and Lloyd aren't here anymore...and neither are a first, second, three thirds, and fourth and a sixthThat, and I was wondering: the reports that Snyder was livid after the game might be erroneous, and they might not be, but why? Why the heck is the owner livid? Because we gave up a 15 point 3rd quarter lead to a bad team under a coach who had been, historically, very good at holding leads?

If the owner is going to be involved, he needs to be completely emotionless and detacted from outcomes. It's right for the coaches to be livid, the fans to be livid, even the G.M. for a few minutes before getting back to work. The owner can not be so attached to winning and losing without compromising his decision making. And given the quality of Snyder's decision making over the years, I'd argue he's been quite compromised.

A good owner responds to winning and losing exactly the same way, by trying to make his investment better in the long-run. Snyder of all people should not be riding the emotional roller coaster of the season. At the end of the day, that's Jerry Jones' biggest flaw.

A good owner responds to winning and losing exactly the same way, by trying to make his investment better in the long-run. Snyder of all people should not be riding the emotional roller coaster of the season. At the end of the day, that's Jerry Jones' biggest flaw.

Exactly! Well put.

I recognize there is some favoritism by owners. I mean, they spend millions of dollars on these teams and one of the perks seems to be hanging with the players. It just seems that, with DS, some of the players are given elevated status b/c they have the ear of the owner (clearly, this was also true of M. Vick). I suppose I would not be surprised that other owners have their "favorites" who coaches must treat differently for fear of the owner. Are there also owners (other than Crazy Al in Oakland) who are also play "unfavorites" the way Danny does?

What do you mean?