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BrunellMVP?
10-13-2009, 03:33 PM
small sample size but...

Which NFL Quarterbacks Hold The Ball Too Long?

Posted Sep 23, 2009 9:10AM By JJ Cooper (RSS feed)

During many NFL games, and pretty much any Ben Roethlisberger game, you will hear about how many sacks aren't the fault of the offensive line as much as the fault of a quarterback who holds onto the ball for too long.

That's undoubtedly true, but it's also something that is rarely studied. So to get a better idea this year as part of the weekly looks at line play, I'm logging the time the quarterback had for every sack. The time is measured from the snap to the point where the quarterback is first hit (even if the quarterback shrugs off the first hit, it's fair to say that the play has broken down at that point). In general, the average sack occurs around 2.7 to 2.8 seconds after the snap of the ball. Consider that the internal clock a quarterback must have--while the timing can depend somewhat on whether it's a four-man rush or an all-out blitz, in general if a quarterback holds the ball for more than three seconds, he's in trouble. If he gets rid of it in less than 2.5 seconds, he will rarely find himself on his back.

HOLDING ON
The 10 quarterbacks who have held the ball the longest on their sacks
Quarterback Average Time Of Sack No. of Sacks
Jason Campbell 3.66 3
Tom Brady 3.6 1
Jay Cutler 3.51 3
Mark Sanchez 3.51 2
Brady Quinn 3.29 9
Kyle Orton 3.27 3
Trent Edwards 3.26 6
JaMarcus Russell 3.22 3
Chad Pennington 3.2 6
Kurt Warner 3.07 3




GETTING RID OF IT
The 10 quarterbacks who have held the ball the shortest on their sacks
Quarterback Average Time Of Sack No. of Sacks
Byron Leftwich 2.09 2
Tony Romo 2.1 1
Peyton Manning 2.29 2
Marc Bulger 2.46 4
Carson Palmer 2.47 5
Joe Flacco 2.52 2
Matt Stafford 2.53 3
Matt Schaub 2.6 2
Matt Ryan 2.62 2
Brodie Croyle 2.62 3


For now, the numbers are very much affected by small sample size -- Brady Quinn's decision to hold the ball for an amazing 8.28 seconds before being sacked against the Vikings skewed his stats, although he also has three other sacks where he held the ball for more than three seconds.

But while these stats will become more useful as the season moves along, it's still worth sharing them, partly to note who doesn't show up on the top 10 or the bottom 10. For all the talk about Roethlisberger's tendency to hold the ball forever, he ranks in the middle of the pack with an average time of sack of 2.9 seconds, which ranks 19th out of the 33 quarterbacks who have been sacked this season (wide receiver Antwaan Randle El was sacked, but I'm not counting him since it was a gadget play).

Looking at the stats, Carson Palmer and Marc Bulger come across as the quarterbacks who have been the most under fire. Three of Bulger's four sacks came on plays where he was hit less than 2.5 seconds after he took the snap, while two of Palmer's five sacks came less than two seconds after the snap. Only one of Palmer's five sacks took longer than three seconds.

And for all of the complaints about Byron Leftwitch's extremely long throwing motion he's only been sacked twice, and in both cases he was hit less than 2.5 seconds after the snap.

GhettoDogAllStars
10-13-2009, 03:48 PM
Nice find, BrunellMVP

redskinsgirl
10-13-2009, 04:05 PM
Eli and Big Ben have done it

I've never known Eli to play behind an bad online. NYG's oline has usually been considered one of the best of the league the past couple of years.


Big Ben has the same "bad mechanics" as Campbell, but somehow Pitt has manage to win two superbowl with Ben. I can't understand why the skins can't get the same production out of Campbell the way Pitt does out of Big Ben.

MTK
10-13-2009, 04:38 PM
I've never known Eli to play behind an bad online. NYG's oline has usually been considered one of the best of the league the past couple of years.


Big Ben has the same "bad mechanics" as Campbell, but somehow Pitt has manage to win two superbowl with Ben. I can't understand why the skins can't get the same production out of Campbell the way Pitt does out of Big Ben.

Yeah Eli definitely has one of the best OL in the biz.

As for Ben I'm not sure his OL really is that bad as much as it's him holding the ball and making things happen. Most of his sacks are on him, he's the first to admit that.

Why can't JC do it, there are a bunch of reasons not really worth getting in to, but it boils down to he's simply not BR.

wolfeskins
10-13-2009, 06:46 PM
Yeah Eli definitely has one of the best OL in the biz.

As for Ben I'm not sure his OL really is that bad as much as it's him holding the ball and making things happen. Most of his sacks are on him, he's the first to admit that.

Why can't JC do it, there are a bunch of reasons not really worth getting in to, but it boils down to he's simply not BR.


when campbell scrambles he's running scared and usually does one of the following things-
1-runs for a few yards
2-throws it away
3-looks for his check down
4-gets sacked
when ben scrambles, he's still looking down the field at his wrs, he's still trying to make a play.
thats one of the big differences i see, campbell is running around trying to not get sacked, while ben is running around trying to make a play.

JLee9718
10-13-2009, 07:37 PM
We can say that JC is a problem (and I've said it myself many times), but we'll never know how good or bad he really is until we fix the OL. To fix the OL, the first thing I'd do is throw Vinny under the bus!

GhettoDogAllStars
10-13-2009, 08:04 PM
F it. Just put Snyder at center and Vinny right behind him at QB (with his hands all over his junk). Then call QB sneaks until they're both comatose. Problem solved!

DFI
10-13-2009, 08:12 PM
F it. Just put Snyder at center and Vinny right behind him at QB (with his hands all over his junk). Then call QB sneaks until they're both comatose. Problem solved!


Man that is the plan. Best Idea I have heard all season....

budw38
10-13-2009, 08:18 PM
F it. Just put Snyder at center and Vinny right behind him at QB (with his hands all over his junk). Then call QB sneaks until they're both comatose. Problem solved!
I would love to see that .

tryfuhl
10-14-2009, 12:12 AM
I've never known Eli to play behind an bad online. NYG's oline has usually been considered one of the best of the league the past couple of years.


Big Ben has the same "bad mechanics" as Campbell, but somehow Pitt has manage to win two superbowl with Ben. I can't understand why the skins can't get the same production out of Campbell the way Pitt does out of Big Ben.
I don't know why I said Eli when I meant Warner, my mistake.

I think a big difference either way, you see Brady, etc up near the top as holding on too long.. they're also the guys that can shake one off and then find a guy downfield for 30 or so. I can't recall seeing JC get hit and then finding someone downfield, ever.. sure it has to have happened, but not a single play is standing out.

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